Absolutely not. No reason to go beyond the +15 goal posts.
In previous versions of WoW there were more things to do outside of M+. Unfortunately, Blizz want to rely on bored people who just want to keep repeating the same thing over and over. This means they can and have cheaped out, by not creating any real content to play.
Oh you should’ve played BFA when everything wasn’t nerfed to the bone sanguine and necrotic are a joke now. Grievous too.
I remember my first dungeon as tank: waycrest manor +7 sanguine grievous. There is a reason why I still remember it lol
Affixes now are fine tbh.
Sanguine being vertical in tol dagor made me not even want to play the dungeon on sanguine weeks. Killing mobs on a lower floor and running over that spot on a floor above? YEP, SANGUINE KILLS YOU. Other than that I didn’t have much issue with sanguine.
Necrotic I didn’t particularly care about as I mostly tanked as a paladin and just cycled my removals but it was annoying the few times you had to run out of melee. In season 4 I pretty much never had to run out of melee because I was playing with as many ineffable truth parts that I could that I had from my holy gear, basically no CD on removals.
Not really. There’s no reason why the dungeons cant continue to get harder as the level increases. The challenge is just in the mobs and the abilities, rather than how much DPS you can deal, and how much Healing your healer can put out to keep the tank alive while they try and tank the whole dungeon.
There definitely should be an end goal to this. The infinite part of then”end game” now is what is murdering the end game of wow.
It’s more about exploiting at higher levels from what I’ve seen from streamers. They’re pulling the torment mobs from the start of the dungeons and stuff.
Plaguefall’s plagueborers got a nerf due to the exploiting going on with them as well, lol.
Sounds like hardmode tazavesh. And look how fast that dungeon was dead. No affixes means the dungeons stays forever the same. Right now we have to do the puzzle every week. We have to do the dungeons every week different.
Ooo, I remember a nasty one with Caylia there, where she… forgot to kick the boss, but all the while 5 bombs, 4 images and the flashvulpie were all up… not easy to keep track of everything there. The boss room is quite huge, and this was all spread out so difficult to react correctly to everything.
And if my favorite DK is mentioned…
Imagine Inspiring added into the mix, the group would have to burst kill the mob with the aura first, in like a dozen seconds. If you tried to pull multiple such packs, all the worse, and only AFTER then you could kite.
Luckily, this combo doesn’t exist according to mythicpl .us.
Memedagor had a very bad relationship with affixes. Huge mob packs, many neutral enemies that all were affected by the tier 2 affix (sanguine, bolster et alii), narrow corridors, and 3 of 4 bosses had multiple one shot mechanics. On top of that, the infamous floor bug.
It would have been a cool dungeon, I mean I love the jailbreak-in as content, but… very bad with almost any affix.
It was the dungeon that prevented me getting the Awakened title.
But Tazavesh stops at level 2… why doesn’t it go to level 15? You don’t need Whirl Winds and evil ghosts to make it harder.
If you find these instagram filter affixes a “puzzle” that you need to work out, then that doesn’t really pale for how good a player you are. They’re a minor annoyance, which get in the way of actually enjoying playing your class and dungeon itself.
It was the one that prevented me from getting KSM in season 4, had mobs being pulled from floors below, through walls and stuff, I saw new bugs almost every run. One run a monk used ring of peace and a mob went through the wall and kept us in combat the whole run, so we couldn’t even go into the portals. Another run we were fighting below where there was some barrel that could explode above us, it somehow exploded and it killed us through the floors.
I got season 4 KSM when just signing up for a weekly after the prepatch had gone live and it was a +15 tol dagor, didn’t expect we’d time it and then we just timed it. Didn’t even know you could get KSM in the prepatch.
I went in there thinking I’d tank it on a +15, I forgot to remove my twilight devastation. Twilight devastation procced when we were fighting on a floor, it went through a wall and the whole floor came running.
Well yes. Not sure why people used TD so much anyway. It is not the worst just because of the existence of Twilight Devestation. It was the only season you were able to completely play around the bugs.
Because it increased tank damage by, like, a lot, lol. I had 36% twilight devastation on my druid, with 1.4 million hp, I destroyed packs when it procced.
It was completely luck based. Tanks runned mostly versatility corruptions for a reason. But sure. You go in a buggy dungeon and then go complain about bugs when you are using random aoe abilities… It is not important it were not the optimal corruptions. You know you go into TD. Maybe remove TD and just zoom through the +15 without any problem?
Versatility corruptions were pointless when you were just doing 15s. You basically couldn’t die in them as a guardian druid. Most of the time you failed to time 15s because you didn’t have enough damage in the group, twilight devastation on a high hp tank like guardian druid made it a lot easier to time a key.
But you’re already running the same dungeon over and over again. Expect you can’t enjoy the dungeon because you have to dodge, jump and skip over these annoyances.
But if you’re still finding these Instagram filter affixes a “puzzle”, then I can only imagine your small brain is struggling to comprehend a different “outside of the box” way of playing the game. Sorry to get personal, but you really seem to struggling to understand that things could be different and a lot better. Because you and I have been having this conversation for years now, and you still don’t seem to be able to see that the game could be different and a lot better.
Also atleast if M+ was designed with end goal post Blizz would have to design some other decent content to keep us occupied LIKE THEY ALWAYS USED TO DO