No credit for LFR Manaforge boss kills

[Meanprincess-bronze-dragonflight]

@Amonet-ravencrest

Oh please, like you hace to do anything in LFR. In fact you really have to go out of your way to even die there.

N zoth,Raszageth,lately Dimensius would like a word.

[Dehradk-kazzak]

@Meanprincess-bronze-dragonflight

N zoth,Raszageth,lately Dimensius would like a word.

you need to kill 4 bosses to get dinar. You don’t have to kill final bosses

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Meanprincess-bronze-dragonflight

N zoth,Raszageth,lately Dimensius would like a word.

Yes they would. They would like to know why are you blaming them for wiping due to braindead people. Like literally N’zoth was people not using the big glowing button when their screen was covered in fleems and making other people lose sanity. Oh big mechanic incoming, stand in puddle when funny dragon does wing flap.

@Dehradk-kazzak

You don’t have to kill final bosses

But they have been all jokes.

[Nyagatoro-antonidas]

I mean…I’ve seen warcrimes in the LFR version von N’zoth. The fight starts and 75% of the raid get mind controlled. Can’t make that up

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Yes but thats not an issue with fight. There were several indicators as to what you should do, people just refused to do it. And that still proves my point, that you literally have to do nothing in LFR and still get a kill, since even those 1st min 75% raid dead pulls were kills if you had 5-6 geared people that actually knew what to do.

[Tah-crushridge]

@Amonet-ravencrest

Yes but thats not an issue with fight. There were several indicators as to what you should do, people just refused to do it. And that still proves my point, that you literally have to do nothing in LFR and still get a kill, since even those 1st min 75% raid dead pulls were kills if you had 5-6 geared people that actually knew what to do.

True that is on people not being capable on following simple instruction, like in Dimensius for example is just to dont press the extra actian button to ninja pull the boss.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

Again proving my other point, you have to go out of your way to die. Like its cringe enough in Heroic where most wipes I’ve seen are from people not touching b… yeah not saying the actual mechanic because Blizzard, but you know what I mean.

[Dehradk-kazzak]

the thing that always gets me, is they are the bad players that they complain about.

LFR wouldn’t be someone’s peak content otherwise.

Like these people that ask for SoloQ and they are the players we dread being grouped with as they are as lazy and bad as the game as they are entitled.

[Yojeong-kazzak]

@Nyagatoro-antonidas

I mean…I’ve seen warcrimes in the LFR version von N’zoth. The fight starts and 75% of the raid get mind controlled. Can’t make that up

Wasnt it also that you needed the cloak or something but you could que up without it?

@Amonet-ravencrest

Again proving my other point, you have to go out of your way to die.

Ive seen it being closer to a wipe due to dmg issue in LFR, which is quite an achievement.

[Tah-crushridge]

@Amonet-ravencrest

Again proving my other point, you have to go out of your way to die. Like its cringe enough in Heroic where most wipes I’ve seen are from people not touching b… yeah not saying the actual mechanic because Blizzard, but you know what I mean.

I have not done heroic, just normal but besided Fractilus i say that the on the other encounters is pretty clear how to deal with mechanics even without a boss mod.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Yojeong-kazzak

Wasnt it also that you needed the cloak or something but you could que up without it?

Yes which was the other issue. Why are you going into a raid before getting the damn cloack…

@Yojeong-kazzak

Ive seen it being closer to a wipe due to dmg issue in LFR, which is quite an achievement.

But they have that thing when you die, what was it called? Determination stacks? That increase your throughput and I think survivability by X% per stack.

[Yojeong-kazzak]

@Amonet-ravencrest

Yes which was the other issue. Why are you going into a raid before getting the damn cloack…

Quite sure there were some ppl who didnt know about it, some ppl who trolled and some ppl who were lazy xd

@Amonet-ravencrest

But they have that thing when you die, what was it called? Determination stacks? That increase your throughput and I think survivability by X% per stack.

Yes. But that requires that you do wipe. Its pretty embarrassing to wipe in LFR. But I always also seem to be close to falling asleep while doing it.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Yojeong-kazzak

Yes. But that requires that you do wipe.

Yes and? Its literally rewarding you for failing.

@Yojeong-kazzak

Quite sure there were some ppl who didnt know about it, some ppl who trolled and some ppl who were lazy xd

Again not a problem with the encounter (and we are talking about N’zoth here, plenty of wrong with that encounter on its own). Its the people doing it.

[Yojeong-kazzak]

@Amonet-ravencrest

Yes and? Its literally rewarding you for failing.

Sure, you could see it as a reward for wiping. I see it as waste of time due to lazy ppl 90% of the time.

@Amonet-ravencrest

Again not a problem with the encounter (and we are talking about N’zoth here, plenty of wrong with that encounter on its own). Its the people doing it.

Nah the encounter itself wasnt rly the biggest issue, the biggest issue were ppl being able to que up without the cloak to begin with. In the end, yes, its still peoples issue for not looking it up or knowing about it.

Im just happy I dont need to do LFR anymore for tmog in midnight. The less I need to do LFR the better.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Yojeong-kazzak

Sure, you could see it as a reward for wiping. I see it as waste of time due to lazy ppl 90% of the time.

Oh no, LFR is a waste of time 1000%.

[Tah-earthen-ring]

@Amonet-ravencrest

I just cant wrap my head around this queue obsession. Like why? Is it fun sitting there for god knoes how long to do what?

I’m not sitting around. I’m out there in the world doing stuff as the queue is going.
The queue itself ‘isn’t fun’, but what it allows me to do is.
Actively looking for a group and having to focus on that, is just about one my least desirable ways to spend my time in a game, period.

@Amonet-ravencrest

2-3 bosses, go out and wait for your next queue to pop so you could do another 2-3 bosses.

More often than not a wing is over and right away as I’m getting my loot there’s a pop for the next wing I queued for. It’s pretty convenient.

[Amonet-ravencrest]

@Tah-earthen-ring

More often than not a wing is over and right away as I’m getting my loot there’s a pop for the next wing I queued for. It’s pretty convenient.

Its more convinient to not have to wait/pray for queue to wings to begin with. Kill boss go to other boss. Magic I know.

[Tah-earthen-ring]

@Yojeong-kazzak

Im just happy I dont need to do LFR anymore for tmog in midnight. The less I need to do LFR the better.

Now all they need to do is make the whole raid Story Mode and not just the last boss.
Or even; have a little ingame cinematic of my character and a bunch of NPCs killing the previous bosses in a nice narrative based way and then move on to the last boss. That would work for me too.

@Amonet-ravencrest

Its more convinient to not have to wait/pray for queue to wings to begong with. Kill boss go to other boss. Magic I know.

Sure, but that’s unfortunately not how they made LFR.
So I have to work with what I got.

[Nobooping-silvermoon]

@Tah-earthen-ring

It’s not fine. It’s exclusion. And that’s not okay.

It is a self imposed exclusion .don’t know what else to say about your case .

[Tah-earthen-ring]

@Nobooping-silvermoon

It is a self imposed exclusion

No. LFR is being excluded.
That’s not self imposed. That’s factual exclusion.
It is the only form of raiding to get this horrible treatment.

@Nobooping-silvermoon

don’t know what else to say about your case .

I have proven my right. Thank you for your admittance in advance.