Open up all classes for all races

It certainly needs gnome druids.

Nah, keep a little class fantasy, there’s not much left but there are some things that shouldn’t be like goblin druids.

I think it will be too many racials. Racials can be removed, of course, but then race becomes transmog and you know what happens with transmog - they go in the shop.

Generally, I enjoy the restrictions more than I would enjoy the freedom. They add a ton of flavor. I wanted to make a nightborne woman paladin and I was disappointed that I couldn’t but also it makes sense. So it was fine.

I really dislike games where the race is a purely cosmetic choice. Generally I consider weighing cosmetics an inherently bad choice.

They basically already have become just that. Just look at the new races.

And to be honest… id really like that to be the case. Let Race be a transmog and Faction the choice part.

I’d love me an Alliance Troll Druid. Can’t stand the doom and gloom atmosphere of The Horde.

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I’d love me an Alliance Troll Druid. Can’t stand the doom and gloom atmosphere of The Horde.
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Except the Alliance at its core will never tolerate trolls and trolls have a personal grudge against the Alliance.

90% of other MMOs fail because they fail at one thing - making the world interesting and making sense. This is also why FFXIV succeeds. Even people who don’t care about the lore and the world need the game to make sense at a core level. There is no successful MMO where the world doesn’t matter.

I don’t want WoW to become Fortnite. It is already going down that path, let’s not accelerate it.

If a choice doesn’t have gameplay ramifications, it shouldn’t exist.

Yeah, i used to think that way too… long ago. But these days im more interested in getting as much of my funsies as possible. Lore has been shredded and adapted so often by now that i’m sure its in the realm of possibilities that a lone Troll could get asylum from the rightious Alliance… especially one as talented as mine. :wink:

Lets agree to disagree.

There are many choices like that… the racial skin of my characters should not be among them as far as im concerned.

The choice is in the Class and the Faction… not in the skin of the character. It would make the game infinitely more interesting for the casual gamers… you know, the ones that fund everything you see by sheer numbers.

I get it, but games that sacrifice the integrity of the world for short-term fun never works. For a game to last 16 years and if we want it to last a whole lot more, it needs to maintain a world we’re all interested in. It benefits from getting us invested in Horde vs Alliance drama. You can’t have that if Orcs can join the Alliance or if Night Elfs can join the Horde. Then the choice between Horde and Alliance becomes akin to a… choice between two discord servers. Completely arbitrary and… fashion.

In fact, the factions only make sense in their different gameplay. While I don’t think faction-exclusive classes are a good idea, I think faction-exclusive skills, like the racials, are what makes that choice valid. If there’s no difference between the faction, why bother choosing? The entire playerbase will shift to one faction just so they can play together.

There is not one successful MMO that has traded world integrity for short term fun for the players and lasted to tell its story.

And how does racial skins changes the integrity? The Argent Crusade has members of all races and factions.

There is nothing more realistic than the watering down of the original devides through changes of insight or convictions as time progresses. In Lore there already are plenty of examples of characters that don’t stick to their origins to serve a common goal. There is no reason whatsoever that this couldn’t spark characters to join ā€˜the other side’. It would only make things more interesting.

The choice between Horde or Alliance would still be that, regardless of race. Because its a choice between perception of the World and ways of living. Colour of skin has nothing to do with that… just look at the Elves… they are all over the place.

Actually, if anything i believe it would make that faction choice more meaningfull. If Race isn’t a boundery anymore what does steer your choice of Faction other than what that Faction stands for.

It is especially weird for Paladins or Druids who actually DO bridge that gap in Lore to not have that choice as a player.

I think all classes apart from Druid / Shaman should be race wide but Personally I dont mind

Tauren rogue here I come!

No to goblin paladins as they don’t respect the ways of the light. It was bad eneogh with troll paladins!

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