Out of Tendies? Check out the shop 😁

Just like not everyone likes the rubbish on the Tender shop.

No thanks.

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Not checked what to buy this month yet.

But i should be having like 4000 or so.

Dono why people lack tenders.

If you like Pink, then it’s a good month!

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You seem overly aggressive about it. Why do some cosmetics in a game make you feel so angry?

As a hunter player I’ve been disappointed with the look of hunter tier sets since forever. I don’t like that that’s the case, but on the other hand; getting angry about it doesn’t do any good. So I do critize it every now and then, but generally I just move on. There’s plenty of other cool stuff in the game.

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I like Cosmetics in WoW. I have collected some incredibly rare ones, and even time limited ones heading all the way back in the games past.

However, this sudden influx of off-topic cosmetics has made the game less enjoyable. It is breaking the immersion of playing WoW.

If the items were available through in-game means, I would have the option of whether I go for them or ignore them.

Instead I am presented each month with a set amount of Currency and being told “Thanks for Subscribing (i.e. thanks for your money), take this currency and buy something from this selection of cosmetics”.

Well month after month, I seem to be walking away without spending this currency that I am being given for spending my hard earned money on the game. So something must be going wrong with what they’re putting up for purchase. I’m not getting my value for money here.

Honestly, I think the current Art Team have forgotten about what made WoW such a good game.

Yes, hunters have had it hard over the years. They got it Right with the Aberus raid set, but that’s 1 out of how many sets?

But Hunters really are the 1 class who has suffered this fate. 1 Class out of 13.

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What?.. Your subscription allows you to play the game, and to incentivize you do do different things, Blizzard added the trading post, for extra cosmetics.

The sub price did not increase after the introduction of the Trading post, so how is your “value for money” linked to the trading post?

If you felt you got your value for money before, surely you can’t make up the argument, that you now get less value for an optional feature that affects no end game pillars?

And if you did not feel like getting your value for money before either, then why be so bothered about something you can literally just ignore?

Sorry to hear that. I can’t say I share that experience. But then again: I hardly pay attention what others are wearing in the game. I care about what my characters look like.

You have that option with the current system. So I don’t really get your point here.

That’s a strange way of looking at it imo. You are spending your money to play the game. The tender is just a little something extra. And they’re not telling you that you have to spend it. You CAN. If you want. If there’s nothing; then you can just play the game as normal and save your tender to spend at a later time.

I’ve told you this before: You are thinking the Trading Post is something that it was never supposed to be. I’ve linked to their description twice already. Have you not even read that? I’ll link it again. Please read it:

Source

A Home for Creative Cosmetics

There are a multitude of interesting transmog, pet, and mount possibilities in Azeroth, limited only by imagination. The Trading Post will serve as a home for many more items from across Azeroth— and beyond—and is not limited by the current game content. You can expect to see a variety of fun new items to add to your collection.

Opening the possibilities allows for a wide variety of different goods to be brought to the Trading Post and players can expect the unexpected in each month’s new catalogue!

So in short: You want the trading post to be something it’s not. Sorry. You can’t always get what you want. The game is FULL of lore-inspired stuff already.

I told you this before as well: You are simply too picky. That’s fine in itself, but you shouldn’t blame the developers for that.

Right!
But what good would it do for me to focus on that? Instead I look at all the other stuff I can get nowadays to really make some unique looks for my character(s).

You can only get the Tender and access to the cosmetics if you have an active subscription. The Trading Post is used as an incentive to increase subscriptions to WoW.

It is part of what you pay for. If you think of it as anything else, then you are a fool. Sorry.

I’m not going to get into a discussion about the value of the subscription fee.

Not in the same way.

The Trading Post is presented to you each month as a Battle Pass system. It’s very in your face and is something I think that everyone (including myself) looks forward to seeing what is presented each month.

Sadly, I now realise that I’ll mostly be disappointed.

Quests/Achievments in the game can easily be ignored, because once they’re in the game, you don’t really have to do them. There is no system in place to get you to look at them if you don’t want ti.

Not strange at all. That is exactly why the Trading Post was implemented. To increase and pro-long subscriptions.

As I said to the other guy. If you see it as anything else, then you are a fool. It’s a marketing tool. It is a way of saying thank you for your money.

As I said, if you think it is anything more than a Marketing Tool, used as a way to get people subscribed for longer, then you are a fool.

The Trading Post is intended for everyone, not just the people who like Cute and fluffy things. It is currently failing in its mission.

All I am asking is that the Trading Post presents more items that can be enjoyed by the other half of the player base.

(btw guys, I’m not directly calling you a fool to be offensive. I am just trying to encourage you to open your eyes and actually look at the bigger picture.).

But you’re making it sound as if you’d not be subscribed if the TP wasn’t part of the deal.
And I very much doubt that.

In your face; no I don’t think it is. In fact, it’s quite easy to forget about.
But on the second part of what you said; sure. I always look forward to it as well.

Because you’re not open for anything that doesn’t fit your idea of ‘what is Wacraft’.
You have the power to change that disappointment into enjoyment, you know?

Of course it is. But it’s also COMPLETELY OPTIONAL.

Here’s a bit of an analogy:

If I go to a bakery and buy a bread and the person behind the counter says: Would you like a free cheese stick with that?
You can either accept it or politely decline (which is what I would do since I think cheese is disgusting). What is NOT the way to go about it, is to start a tirade against that person telling them how they should be offering more bread instead of cheese sticks because you’ve come here to buy bread and nothing else.

Yes it is for everyone that’s why they offer a WIDE RANGE OF STUFF. That includes cute and fluffy, but also many, many other things. As I’ve said before too. You keep ignoring the FACT that the Trading Posts offers MUCH MORE than just ‘cute and fluffy’.

And they do. They have been doing that for the last 2 years. Just not every month. You’ll just have to learn to deal with that. You can’t always get what you want.

I’ll put my money where my mouth is. Sticking only to transmog sets, here’s a list of trading post sets that are NOT ‘cute and fluffy’. Mind you; that’s not even taking into account the many individual transmog items, mounts and weapons and such.

Let’s compare that to a list of ‘cute and fluffy’ sets:

Please tell me again how there’s only ‘cute and fluffy’ stuff.

I don’t want to break it to you but
 in a Subscription based product everything from world quests to mythic raiding and pvp, are designed to keep you subscribed.

Blizzard doesn’t provide WoW out of the kindness of their hearts.

That said tender in the shop is pushing it in a sub based game that also has a shop at all.

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I don’t like that the Trader’s Tenders are slowly turning into shark cards.

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If it sells, it’s not Blizzard who lost their mind :wink:

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Tbh, the way the game is heading, I am definitely on my way out now.

It feels like Blizzard aren’t even trying to make a fun game anymore.

Because WoW has seemed to be taking a veer off path in completely the wrong direction.

As someone who has enjoyed WoW for so many years, it feels like they don’t want to make a game that I enjoy anymore.

Now let’s look at which ones are High Resolution and modern looking compared to which ones are Low Res and Recolours.

  1. add tons of old items back to TP so people can’t afford them because you give not enough tenders ingame
  2. make people cry on forums begging for tenders in blizzard store
  3. add tenders to blizzard store because you “listened to the community”
  4. profit

I can understand that you should not be able to afford all TP items but as a mounts/pet collector I have never bought a single transmog from the trading post and I was still not able to buy all pets and mounts. That’s so wrong

Just thought that was a weird statement, as yes the game introduces incentives to keep people playing
 That’s basically what everything introduced in the game is
 Difference is, them adding cosmetical stuff to the game, which is 100% optional, doesn’t really effect the end game pillars, i.e. I don’t understand the connection of how you feel your “hard earned money” is affected by it.

But feelings are yours.

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No. I’m not letting you move the goalposts.
You’ve been making claims that I PROVED wrong.

Just admit you were wrong.
It’s fine to not like everything, but honestly, it just sounds like you don’t like anything.
In short: I think no matter what Blizzard does, you’ll always latch onto something to hate.

Maybe it’s indeed time for you to move on if you can’t find any joy in a game.

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That’s because your buying the Tender, the mounts are just a justification to have them in the store.

Is it optional though?

I log in I play the game. A new quest sends me to the Trading Post.

I run a few dungeons and suddenly Ping! Travellers log kill 25 Dungeon Bosses Completed!. I do a few World Quests and suddenly Ping! Complete 10 World Quests. I do some Crafting Orders, suddenly Ping! Completed 10 Crafting Orders.

Doesn’t sound optional to me. It sounds like it is an integrated part of the game you can’t really ignore.

You haven’t proved anything. You have just shared marketing information.

I’m not even in the WooWoo Tin-foil Hat crowd. I’m merely pointing out why it’s there.

There is also nothing wrong with paying for and playing a Game, and wanting to get your full value out of that game. WoW is a game that I have been able to enjoy in full for 20 years. Why should it change now?

I think WoW should probably try to get itself back on track, back to the good game that it once was. That’s why I have started to speak on the forums. I have seen too many bad changes recently. It’s time to speak out against then.

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The problem is that good game wouldn’t last 20 seconds in a modern marketplace. Not saying new WoW is better than old WoW, IMHO it isn’t, however audience desires and demands have changed since 2004.