Just like not everyone likes the rubbish on the Tender shop.
No thanks.

Lol, how do you even run out of Tendies with the rubbish theyâre putting on the Trading Post recently.
Not checked what to buy this month yet.
But i should be having like 4000 or so.
Dono why people lack tenders.

Not checked what to buy this month yet.
But i should be having like 4000 or so.
Dono why people lack tenders.
If you like Pink, then itâs a good month!

Just like not everyone likes the rubbish on the Tender shop.
You seem overly aggressive about it. Why do some cosmetics in a game make you feel so angry?
As a hunter player Iâve been disappointed with the look of hunter tier sets since forever. I donât like that thatâs the case, but on the other hand; getting angry about it doesnât do any good. So I do critize it every now and then, but generally I just move on. Thereâs plenty of other cool stuff in the game.

Why do some cosmetics in a game make you feel so angry?
I like Cosmetics in WoW. I have collected some incredibly rare ones, and even time limited ones heading all the way back in the games past.
However, this sudden influx of off-topic cosmetics has made the game less enjoyable. It is breaking the immersion of playing WoW.
If the items were available through in-game means, I would have the option of whether I go for them or ignore them.
Instead I am presented each month with a set amount of Currency and being told âThanks for Subscribing (i.e. thanks for your money), take this currency and buy something from this selection of cosmeticsâ.
Well month after month, I seem to be walking away without spending this currency that I am being given for spending my hard earned money on the game. So something must be going wrong with what theyâre putting up for purchase. Iâm not getting my value for money here.
Honestly, I think the current Art Team have forgotten about what made WoW such a good game.

As a hunter player Iâve been disappointed with the look of hunter tier sets since forever.
Yes, hunters have had it hard over the years. They got it Right with the Aberus raid set, but thatâs 1 out of how many sets?
But Hunters really are the 1 class who has suffered this fate. 1 Class out of 13.

âThanks for Subscribing (i.e. thanks for your money), take this currency and buy something from this selection of cosmeticsâ.
Well month after month, I seem to be walking away without spending this currency that I am being given for spending my hard earned money on the game. So something must be going wrong with what theyâre putting up for purchase. Iâm not getting my value for money here.
What?.. Your subscription allows you to play the game, and to incentivize you do do different things, Blizzard added the trading post, for extra cosmetics.
The sub price did not increase after the introduction of the Trading post, so how is your âvalue for moneyâ linked to the trading post?
If you felt you got your value for money before, surely you canât make up the argument, that you now get less value for an optional feature that affects no end game pillars?
And if you did not feel like getting your value for money before either, then why be so bothered about something you can literally just ignore?

However, this sudden influx of off-topic cosmetics has made the game less enjoyable. It is breaking the immersion of playing WoW.
Sorry to hear that. I canât say I share that experience. But then again: I hardly pay attention what others are wearing in the game. I care about what my characters look like.

If the items were available through in-game means, I would have the option of whether I go for them or ignore them.
You have that option with the current system. So I donât really get your point here.

Instead I am presented each month with a set amount of Currency and being told âThanks for Subscribing (i.e. thanks for your money), take this currency and buy something from this selection of cosmeticsâ.
Well month after month, I seem to be walking away without spending this currency that I am being given for spending my hard earned money on the game.
Thatâs a strange way of looking at it imo. You are spending your money to play the game. The tender is just a little something extra. And theyâre not telling you that you have to spend it. You CAN. If you want. If thereâs nothing; then you can just play the game as normal and save your tender to spend at a later time.

So something must be going wrong with what theyâre putting up for purchase. Iâm not getting my value for money here.
Honestly, I think the current Art Team have forgotten about what made WoW such a good game.
Iâve told you this before: You are thinking the Trading Post is something that it was never supposed to be. Iâve linked to their description twice already. Have you not even read that? Iâll link it again. Please read it:
A Home for Creative Cosmetics
There are a multitude of interesting transmog, pet, and mount possibilities in Azeroth, limited only by imagination. The Trading Post will serve as a home for many more items from across Azerothâ and beyondâand is not limited by the current game content. You can expect to see a variety of fun new items to add to your collection.
Opening the possibilities allows for a wide variety of different goods to be brought to the Trading Post and players can expect the unexpected in each monthâs new catalogue!
So in short: You want the trading post to be something itâs not. Sorry. You canât always get what you want. The game is FULL of lore-inspired stuff already.
I told you this before as well: You are simply too picky. Thatâs fine in itself, but you shouldnât blame the developers for that.

Yes, hunters have had it hard over the years. They got it Right with the Aberus raid set, but thatâs 1 out of how many sets?
But Hunters really are the 1 class who has suffered this fate. 1 Class out of 13.
Right!
But what good would it do for me to focus on that? Instead I look at all the other stuff I can get nowadays to really make some unique looks for my character(s).

What?.. Your subscription allows you toâŠ
You can only get the Tender and access to the cosmetics if you have an active subscription. The Trading Post is used as an incentive to increase subscriptions to WoW.
It is part of what you pay for. If you think of it as anything else, then you are a fool. Sorry.
Iâm not going to get into a discussion about the value of the subscription fee.

You have that option with the current system. So I donât really get your point here.
Not in the same way.
The Trading Post is presented to you each month as a Battle Pass system. Itâs very in your face and is something I think that everyone (including myself) looks forward to seeing what is presented each month.
Sadly, I now realise that Iâll mostly be disappointed.
Quests/Achievments in the game can easily be ignored, because once theyâre in the game, you donât really have to do them. There is no system in place to get you to look at them if you donât want ti.

Thatâs a strange way of looking at it imo. You are spending your money to
Not strange at all. That is exactly why the Trading Post was implemented. To increase and pro-long subscriptions.
As I said to the other guy. If you see it as anything else, then you are a fool. Itâs a marketing tool. It is a way of saying thank you for your money.

Iâve told you this before: You are thinking the Trading Post is something that it was never supposed to be. Iâve linked to their description twice already. Have you not even read that? Iâll link it again. Please read it:
As I said, if you think it is anything more than a Marketing Tool, used as a way to get people subscribed for longer, then you are a fool.
The Trading Post is intended for everyone, not just the people who like Cute and fluffy things. It is currently failing in its mission.
All I am asking is that the Trading Post presents more items that can be enjoyed by the other half of the player base.
(btw guys, Iâm not directly calling you a fool to be offensive. I am just trying to encourage you to open your eyes and actually look at the bigger picture.).

You can only get the Tender and access to the cosmetics if you have an active subscription. The Trading Post is used as an incentive to increase subscriptions to WoW.
It is part of what you pay for. If you think of it as anything else, then you are a fool. Sorry.
Iâm not going to get into a discussion about the value of the subscription fee.
But youâre making it sound as if youâd not be subscribed if the TP wasnât part of the deal.
And I very much doubt that.

Itâs very in your face and is something I think that everyone (including myself) looks forward to seeing what is presented each month.
In your face; no I donât think it is. In fact, itâs quite easy to forget about.
But on the second part of what you said; sure. I always look forward to it as well.

Sadly, I now realise that Iâll mostly be disappointed.
Because youâre not open for anything that doesnât fit your idea of âwhat is Wacraftâ.
You have the power to change that disappointment into enjoyment, you know?

Itâs a marketing tool. It is a way of saying thank you for your money.
Of course it is. But itâs also COMPLETELY OPTIONAL.
Hereâs a bit of an analogy:
If I go to a bakery and buy a bread and the person behind the counter says: Would you like a free cheese stick with that?
You can either accept it or politely decline (which is what I would do since I think cheese is disgusting). What is NOT the way to go about it, is to start a tirade against that person telling them how they should be offering more bread instead of cheese sticks because youâve come here to buy bread and nothing else.

The Trading Post is intended for everyone, not just the people who like Cute and fluffy things.
Yes it is for everyone thatâs why they offer a WIDE RANGE OF STUFF. That includes cute and fluffy, but also many, many other things. As Iâve said before too. You keep ignoring the FACT that the Trading Posts offers MUCH MORE than just âcute and fluffyâ.

All I am asking is that the Trading Post presents more items that can be enjoyed by the other half of the player base.
And they do. They have been doing that for the last 2 years. Just not every month. Youâll just have to learn to deal with that. You canât always get what you want.
Iâll put my money where my mouth is. Sticking only to transmog sets, hereâs a list of trading post sets that are NOT âcute and fluffyâ. Mind you; thatâs not even taking into account the many individual transmog items, mounts and weapons and such.
- Ensemble: Swashbuckling Buccaneerâs Slops
- Ensemble: Fel-Automaton Exoplate
- Ensemble: Glorious Dragonriderâs Mail
- Ensemble: Trapperâs Munitions
- Ensemble: Corrupted Runelordâs Regalia
- Ensemble: Kvaldir Scout Leathers
- Ensemble: Vestment of the Honored Valarjar
- Ensemble: Helarjar Berserker Warplate
- Ensemble: Sylvan Stalkerâs Leathers
- Plate of the Light Avenger
- Silks of the Unnamed Cult
- Blood Onyx Uniform
- Webbed Saronite Exoskeleton
- Nathreza Blasphemerâs Flames
- Ashamaneâs Vestment of Rebirth
- Possessed Watcher Guise
- Jewels of the Alluring Call
- Savage Championâs Trophies
- Ensemble: Solemn Watchmanâs Garb
- Ensemble: Wastewander Trackerâs Kit
- Ensemble: Battlewraps of the Honored Valarjar
- Ensemble: Fearless Buccaneerâs Slops
- Ensemble: Deepest Depths Diver Suit
- Ensemble: Plunderlordâs Radiant Finery
- Ensemble: Ragged Harvest Golem
- Ensemble: Gladiatorâs Battered Armor
- Ensemble: Dark Ranger Generalâs Kit
- Ensemble: Vestment of the Honored Valarjar
- Ensemble: Golden Clockwork Attire
- Ensemble: Green Clockwork Attire
Letâs compare that to a list of âcute and fluffyâ sets:
- Ensemble: Spring Revelerâs Lavender Collection
- Ensemble: Spring Revelerâs Lavender Apparel
- Ensemble: Sunny Tropical Swimwear
- Ensemble: Sunny Tropical Beachwear
- Sky-Captainâs Formal Attire
- Ensemble: Purple Snugglefin Murloc Romper
- Ensemble: Twilight Witchâs Attire
- Ensemble: Love Witchâs Attire
Please tell me again how thereâs only âcute and fluffyâ stuff.

You can only get the Tender and access to the cosmetics if you have an active subscription. The Trading Post is used as an incentive to increase subscriptions to WoW.
I donât want to break it to you but⊠in a Subscription based product everything from world quests to mythic raiding and pvp, are designed to keep you subscribed.
Blizzard doesnât provide WoW out of the kindness of their hearts.
That said tender in the shop is pushing it in a sub based game that also has a shop at all.
I donât like that the Traderâs Tenders are slowly turning into shark cards.

Blizz really lost mind?
If it sells, itâs not Blizzard who lost their mind

But youâre making it sound as if youâd not be subscribed if the TP wasnât part of the deal.
Tbh, the way the game is heading, I am definitely on my way out now.
It feels like Blizzard arenât even trying to make a fun game anymore.

Because youâre not open for anything that doesnât fit your idea of âwhat is Wacraftâ.
Because WoW has seemed to be taking a veer off path in completely the wrong direction.
As someone who has enjoyed WoW for so many years, it feels like they donât want to make a game that I enjoy anymore.

Iâll put my money where my mouth is. Sticking only to transmog sets, hereâs a list of trading post sets that are NOT âcute and fluffyâ. Mind you; thatâs not even taking into account the many individual transmog items, mounts and weapons and such.
Now letâs look at which ones are High Resolution and modern looking compared to which ones are Low Res and Recolours.
- add tons of old items back to TP so people canât afford them because you give not enough tenders ingame
- make people cry on forums begging for tenders in blizzard store
- add tenders to blizzard store because you âlistened to the communityâ
- profit
I can understand that you should not be able to afford all TP items but as a mounts/pet collector I have never bought a single transmog from the trading post and I was still not able to buy all pets and mounts. Thatâs so wrong

Iâm not going to get into a discussion about the value of the subscription fee

Iâm not getting my value for money here.
Just thought that was a weird statement, as yes the game introduces incentives to keep people playing⊠Thatâs basically what everything introduced in the game is⊠Difference is, them adding cosmetical stuff to the game, which is 100% optional, doesnât really effect the end game pillars, i.e. I donât understand the connection of how you feel your âhard earned moneyâ is affected by it.
But feelings are yours.

Now letâs look at which ones are High Resolution and modern looking compared to which ones are Low Res and Recolours.
No. Iâm not letting you move the goalposts.
Youâve been making claims that I PROVED wrong.
Just admit you were wrong.
Itâs fine to not like everything, but honestly, it just sounds like you donât like anything.
In short: I think no matter what Blizzard does, youâll always latch onto something to hate.
Maybe itâs indeed time for you to move on if you canât find any joy in a game.
Thatâs because your buying the Tender, the mounts are just a justification to have them in the store.

Just thought that was a weird statement, as yes the game introduces incentives to keep people playing⊠Thatâs basically what everything introduced in the game is⊠Difference is, them adding cosmetical stuff to the game, which is 100% optional, doesnât really effect the end game pillars, i.e. I donât understand the connection of how you feel your âhard earned moneyâ is affected by it.
Is it optional though?
I log in I play the game. A new quest sends me to the Trading Post.
I run a few dungeons and suddenly Ping! Travellers log kill 25 Dungeon Bosses Completed!. I do a few World Quests and suddenly Ping! Complete 10 World Quests. I do some Crafting Orders, suddenly Ping! Completed 10 Crafting Orders.
Doesnât sound optional to me. It sounds like it is an integrated part of the game you canât really ignore.

Youâve been making claims that I PROVED wrong.
You havenât proved anything. You have just shared marketing information.
Iâm not even in the WooWoo Tin-foil Hat crowd. Iâm merely pointing out why itâs there.
There is also nothing wrong with paying for and playing a Game, and wanting to get your full value out of that game. WoW is a game that I have been able to enjoy in full for 20 years. Why should it change now?

Maybe itâs indeed time for you to move on if you canât find any joy in a game.
I think WoW should probably try to get itself back on track, back to the good game that it once was. Thatâs why I have started to speak on the forums. I have seen too many bad changes recently. Itâs time to speak out against then.

back to the good game that it once was
The problem is that good game wouldnât last 20 seconds in a modern marketplace. Not saying new WoW is better than old WoW, IMHO it isnât, however audience desires and demands have changed since 2004.