Over 50 mage bots in Slave Pens and Maraudon

Are u serious?

OK I dunno how much it is to buy gold from dodgy websites but lets say its €50 for 50k that’s just a rough guess. Now ur average bot farmer spends €165 on a boosts and he makes around 5k a week from each bot, so thats 25k a week two weeks he got 50k gold back and he sells if for €50. So he’s making roughly €400 a month, that’s €4,800 a year in pure profit all for a one-off outlay of €165.

Do the same maths but instead of boosted char, Extra 13 accounts which is what you would get with that money it doesn’t take long to bot them to 58 if you think those accounts will last the year the guy not using the boost would have made €62,400 a year minus the extra 13 accounts subscription big difference for the same value

Sorry, 6-8 days played is not long? They can farm up initial cost of boost on a fresh new account, plus additional gold which will get sold so in the end boost = more revenue in the mid/long run.

it doesn’t take 6-8 days to level to 58 even just grinding mobs doing the maths shows that not getting the boost will be more profitable especially the longer the period because of the multiplier effect of having extra accounts

Agreed. I member the old blizz.

Doing the maths shows exact opposite, you are just stubborn to admit it.

Ok, let’s say it takes 3 days to get to 58 (far away from the truth). Now calculate how much gold can they farm on lvl70 in 72 hours. Let’s be conservative, and imagine that they are farming only 100 gold per hour (far, far from the real numbers) we are looking at 7200 gold.

Go check how much does 1k gold go for and come back again.

Right so do the same maths but over the one month membership do you think botters just bot to 58 then stop? Let’s do a small scale example using your 100g/ph

1 account boosted £40 plus £10 for the month because your 58 you make money straight away so 100x24=2,400 per day

Over 30 days 72k gold for total of £50

5 accounts no boost costs £50 for the month

Takes 3 days to level 58 we will not count the gold generated leveling let’s do the same maths 100x24=2,400 X5 accounts=12,000 per day

Let’s take it over 27 days played since you know 3 days to level up

12,000x27= 324k gold over the the month for £50

What am I not getting ?

324 x ~£45… I think I’m in the wrong profession, should have been a gold farmer.

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Yeah that’s based off the 100g/pH I’ve no idea how much botters make or how often they get banned but it must be good money as they are so many and so many people buy gold.

I do bet some guys make a decent living out of it for sure.

Why the hell are you even talking about multiple accounts here man? What kind of math are you running in your head at all?

Do not over-complicate things, only thing that is important is how much money can they earn in 3-4 days that they are spending on leveling from 1 to 58, nothing else. And it’s a lot of money, especially due fact that I was very convservativeby saying they will be farming only 100g per hour (more realistic thing is 150-200g at least).

Gold currently sells, on average for 29$ for 1k gold, so by taking your and my numbers (and being very generous on your side saying that they will level in 3 days to 58, and conservative on mine saying they will make only 100g per hour) we end up with 72 x 1000 = 7200 gold, which in the end turns into ~208$. By not leveling from 1 to 58 by hand they just increased revenue by quite a lot. It’s super simple math, no need to over-complicate it at all.

Even better thing for botters/gold sellers is that this is failsafe method for them, even if they get banned after a month they are still in a plus due saving 3 days on leveling (and in the process earning ~150$ more than if what they would earn by leveling by hand through 1-58. Now feel free to multiply this by any amount of accounts you want, they are still in a plus 100-150% per each account for saving those 3 days.

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Because gold sellers bot with multiple accounts buying the boost over having those extra accounts from the same investment makes boosting not very attractive at all

I gave you an example with very simple maths that was easy to understand the only way i would think anyone would be paying for a boost to bot is people botting a second account for personal use as you don’t need a huge amount of gold as your not selling but when you look at professional gold sellers the boost is bad.

As you said about the account getting banned in the month risk is smaller to have more accounts but if indeed all accounts get banned in 3 days of botting ofc it will be worse to not boost but then again if you get banned within 24hr without trading off gold that’s alot of money to lose on a large scale due to the large investment to lose upfront with the cost of boosting

Dude ur flat out wrong not only do they make money faster but botting out in the world to level increases ur chance to get banned by reports+get ganked. With 58 its straight instance also it takes 5-7 days to get to that level too for bots. People like u that never wants to admit to being wrong gets annoying to see after a while.

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Zul’farrak is filled too with at least 20 mage goin in and out, i’ve spent there some time waiting for tank doing dungeons and reported a few. Got 2 mail from blizz saying they banned but I highly doubt its an actual ban. If a GM goes to check for botting mass report, he’d have seen the other 20 mage at lvl 58 full boosted gear going in and out in the same pattern at the exact same miliseconds and would’ve banned them too not thinking they are players having fun in their own way LOL.

Also to the dwarf dude.

to give you a little insight, getting the boost + token is 55€

most accounts are staying for multiple days, lets say a very short lived one, 3 days( which is often time can go up to 1-2 week)

In the 3 day each account goes on a 24 hour run, its 2021, going into 2022 halfways, computers dont need to be restarted or shutdown to cool off. A average pc can easily run for 3+ day on decent-high load and stay on 50-60 celsius. back to the topic.

On that 3 day run, they print out roughly a 200g/hr, depends on what they do, can go from 100 to 500, but do the math with 200.

thats 4800 gold per day. do your research an check the gold price.
If they only go for 1 “one” day they and then getting banned, they can buy 2 boost with 2 token and leave same extra for a good meal at mcdonalds.

i think everyone can multiple it by 20 and check it on a 3 day run. worst case cenario, you have to get a new account every 2-3 day while making double your overall paying on them.

Blizzard could easily ban botting by touching their long forgotten anti-cheat called “Warden” by putting in 1-2 hours of work but hey, tin foil hat time, they might be the bots/gold sellers themselves???

PS: http.s://imgur.com/a/nChowzm

Take out the dot from https and check it.
Hey idk but looking at the picture 1020€ raw profit per day sounds pretty good to me

You’re off by 1950 Euro for 50k gold

Good luck trying to find anyone buying that ammount of gold

They don’t get it how expensive gold is and how much more money they get by using lvl58 boost.

There is a reason why high pop servers are filled with lvl58 boost characters which you can super easily identify (super kinky random names, usually almost identical for big chunk of boosted characters).

I said it once and I’ll say it again. Level 58 boost is so big cash cow for Blizzard and not only because of retail players and rerolles, but gold sellers are biggest users of this “feature” definitely and they will never stop using it.

maybe its time to nerf aoe outside a raid .

now there are lvl 60 rogue bots in Slave Pens. reviving topic :smiley:

those tons of mages Bots are still healthy & alive. 24/7 farming

They are not simply botting either. right when the bots enter the dungeon they will fly hack into the ceiling of the cave. The lvl 60 rogues don’t seem to be leveling so they could be pickpocketing, mining and herbing which means that if you are mining or herbing your income will decrease significantly because of deflation (more ores and herbs into economy = less value).
the mages are still megapulling by flyhacking and thats why they are still leveling pretty quickly. Most still use communal boost gear so it’s got to be pretty lucrative to do so.

The most funny part is that Blizzard did a banwave after the first week just because they knew they could make profit on the bots because they had to buy new boosts. Now they don’t do anything for 6 months (similar to classic) then a new banwave and get new boost money back from the bots (that made so much money that they can probably buy boosts rest of tbc) . It’s litterally so disgusting that they actually doing this with purpose and completely ignore doing daily/weekly bans. I feel bad for the dev’s working at Activsion Blizzard, I really do and I hope you find a company that care about you in the future.