So the excuse is “Destroying your own fleet to own the Alliance and sending numerous Horde soldiers into an obvious death-trap while starting a civil war. Genius”
God I love Sylvanas cultists.
Besides, I doubt the Night Elf fleet had time to join the Alliance forces, so I would wager the Alliance still have a fleet.
Somehow I cannot quite rationalise the image of the Night Elf Fleet coming to save the Alliance…
Jaina did not overstep any boundaries. The Sunreavers gave Garrosh a deadly weapon, Baine freed an innocent man being tortured, though I Guess in your mind, ending torture is as bad as smuggling weapons. Jaina only killed those who attacked her. What? Was she supposed to kneel down and let them kill her? Oh wait, that is a war crime by Horde standards. Alliance defending themselves against Horde agression is the worst thing you can do.
The Purge of Dalaran is exactly the reason why we can’t have morally grey events. No one can accept there being good and bad on both sides of it and end up knife fighting to the death about who was in the right.
Jaina would appear weak to the eyes of the people if she just let agents within the Kirin Tor to betray her and get away with it. She did the sensible course of action. At least she initially didn’t resolve to kicking Aethas by force, that’s more than the Horde ever gave to her.
And Jaina had a point. The Sunreavers couldn’t be trusted. Once Horde, always Horde. This expansion proves that no Horde can be trusted.
The Purge of Dalaran is exactly the reason why we can’t have morally grey events. No one can accept there being good and bad on both sides of it and end up knife fighting to the death about who was in the right.
On the contrary, that is a morally grey event. We accept that Jaina stained her hands with the blood of innocents. But we also aknowledge that she did it for valid reasons. Unlike her haters who paint her as the Devil.
Ah my Loa who totally won’t have even small cameo in 8.2.
Yeah, we can ususally have civil and reasonable discussions about the Purge, until salty blood elf avatars enter the forum to assert how them being kciked out of Dalaran is the worst thing that has ever happened in WoW lore and demand the developers do something to let them eneact revenge. Well, they finally get a character who tries in 8.2.
The bad sides of the horde gets killed off step by step. Like a cleaning purge every two expansions. Alliance Grey acts are ignored and the initiators are considered heroes afterwards. That’s the double standards im talking about.
…which get killed by the player with the support of Thrall and Saurfang. It’s like some Night Elves want to revenge Teldrassil and get killed by Anduin and Jaina… If I would like Blood Elves I would be probably disappointed too.
So… you want the Alliance to be more like Baine?
If Jaina had never purged the Sunreavers, your avatar would have a blue background now. Her actions weren’t ignored, it’s you who chooses to ignore the consequences of Jaina’s actions.
Good point. I wonde who he hates more. The Alliance, or Jaina for keeping him in the Horde.
Don’t bother, Erevien is a walking contradiction. Supposedly he also despises Sylvanas and wants her dead, even though he keeps siding with her and praising her.
They were the ones who stepped onto the gangplank to their deaths!
IT’S THEIR FAULT FOR FOLLOWING ORDERS! DON’T BLAME MY WIFE.
Erm… No…?
If we take the 2 “morally grey” acts the Alliance did in the last faction war.
The Tauren Camp - The commander went out of his way to minimize casualties by opening up a gap allowing them to escape and the soldiers who took to looting were either imprisoned or killed. Yet this is still being discussed to this day at how bad it is, even in the Leatherworking quest.
Wow, the pinnacle of the Alliance’s evilness. Even when the people who done this were punished they were still let off free…? Wait…
Next is the Purge of Dalaran - The Horde abused the neutrality of Dalaran twice, the second one stealing an artifact which almost killed Anduin. Jania lost it and started to imprison all the Sunweavers and kill any what stood their ground. It is arguable whether or not she went to far with it and that is why people argue about it to this day. There is right and wrong with both sides and even now Jania regrets what she did.
Despite it being sorted out last faction war in either ToT and Warcrimes some Sunweavers can’t get over it. If anything this makes the confrontation more interesting as you are forced to get rid of someone who puts his vengeance in-front of what is best for the Horde. The fact that he’d rather side with Sylvanas and watch Baine get executed just to see Jania get killed.
What a team player, 10/10.
Can you actually give me an example of one of the Horde’s “morally grey” acts being punished and killed off? I remember people like Korm Blackscar who did dodgey moves yet was allowed off free by the Alliance, hell even Garrosh was more annoyed with him than the Alliance.
Honestly, I blame Saurfang. If he had killed Malfurion like Sylvanas ordered and could have done herself, she would not have been literally forced to burn down Teldrassil and continue the war with the Alliance, lost it and be literally forced to rely on a magical dagger’s whispers to win and subsequently send her fleet into a trap. It is all his fault.
Oh don’t worry. I would ditch sylvanas for the chance of following N’zoth instead anytime.
How about the Peacechieftainness of Baine and Mayla?
Hrm mm. No. Sorry.
Now imagine human potential characters ordering alliance pc to kill black moon army night elves because they refuse to stop fighting. And the nelf community about it. Justified of course.
She killed far more…
and this was not about the purge…
it was about how something far more horrific becomes okay cos’ it is an alliance character.
while when a Horde character does something (100% more justified and within their authority))
It is called injust.
Enjoy.