the new build actually seems to pump quite good. its an improvement for sure. u play dc-leggy, ebon fever, harbringer, lingering plague, embrace death and convocation. trading off petdmg and burst-window (no fm-leggy, no eternal hunger) for consistent dmg and high dc spikes. petkick plays the build rn and says it pumps harder 4 sure.
But can it compete with warriors, hunters and ww monks? Or is it just still a meme spec only to annoy casters?
Pretty much it is. U can win against some warr / ww combs but it’s extremely dampening play. If you just try to play normal you get obliterated by those 2.
uhdk will remain below these speccs for sure. but tbh i take everything i can get and im happy with the buffs. bm and necrowarri will still rek us hard tho.
Idk, mb for deepdamp mana 2s games for shure. I was watching his streams - 90% of his 2s games going like this. As for other PvP u can’t ignore eternal hunger.
My tho about - eternal hunger, lingering plague and embrace death. Ebon fever is kinda meh with reduced plague duration by 50% u just do one more GCD a lot of time and it will give any profit only at range vs 2-3 targets.
its annoying to press it that much but ebon fever increases the dmg to 230%. that has now even more value since the dot did get 30% increase itself. it just does more dmg then eternal hunger even single target. u cant rly pass on convocation imho because the windows where u use ur apocalypse to get to 4 necro wounds insta get delayed way too much. but ye uhdk can be played multiple ways.
Its all fillers, UDK was redesigned to do dmg from pets. U just can’t ignore this. I can’t say full petkick build is bad, ofc no. But, tbh, its not better - u can mix.
ye but eternal gives an increase of 6% petdmg (since u kinda have to play army of the damned this gives only value to ur main ghoul) while the dot options give an increase of 248% dotdmg (cond + talent). ofc petdmg will still be important but going dot-build will still increase ur overall dmg significantly. the only reason to go enternal imo is if u play burst window with fm-leggy. otherwise theres no reason since u weaken ur consistent dmg substantially. but this is all personal opinion, maybe this is all wrong.
Main ghoul do most dmg, btw. And i u like play more bursty build thru UA u need eternal hunger for this. The main problem was that he was the “main thing” and it was bad, cuz u are not BM, i mean ur pet can be taunted, rooted, stuned, slowed while in burst. Now u can trade off something to ability dmg.
6% pet damage from Eternal 252 empowered is kinda meh. DC/DoT build feels good with high haste values.
Let’s just hope for more changes and we can perhaps ditch this dot build for Bursting Sores if wounds will get at least a 30% buff in PvP
For overal DPS? Mb…but not everything win by DPS. Remember DH in BFA, he was a king of middle-low rating in 2s, but nothing in other. He have only overall.
I’ve seen a lot of matches when DH do x2 more DMG and still lose.
for sure. even if ur pet does 10x more dmg then ur dot (which its doesnt) a 148% increase to dot will still bring more overall dmg then a 6% to the pet.
Sure you can go full ham on mastery for pet build, but it’s slow as hell and won’t provide much more burst
Play as u want. I will play mix build, cuz tab dot and spam DC is not a way to go. UDK as FDK had srs problems with dmg away from cd-s, see bad sustained - they buffed it. But go away from main things…idk. People excited about something new and believe that thats go them into the sky, but i don’t think so.
Still find its pretty meh. Its more looks like Alock cosplay. U trade off heavy sustained damage thru pet to overal DPS - in burst META… I just returned to pet leggo and takes 2 conduits on DOT and DC to increase sustained DPS wich was pretty low - now its fine.
Petkick playing in 2s till deep damp with R1 healer that keeps him alive till that. Don’t think its good for LFG. And its pretty RNG to do good dmg on DC - u need proc, u need trinket proc u need FC proc and if its crit with 5% chance ye, its good.
P.S. Also its not bad idea to ake ebon fever + abom in my build. Playing pet - DOT build with UA.
i can now tell u for sure the build is better at least in arena.
Mb, mb. But tbh i don’t like it - its about overall DPS and mostly looks like Alock cosplay. Also UDK dead in RBGs - his pet dead, slowed, cc-d, somewhere there, attack wrong target or stuck. And DOT overall dmg is nothing - its healable- zero pressure. FDK is just good, he got so many variants to take PvP talents depends on situataion + bursty and have a lot of CC.
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i feel like spellwarden pvp talent proccs way less then it used to. does it seem the same to u guys?
Its RNG, never proc when u want. Its fine for me.
was just wondering. yesterday a affli lock tested his dmg on me. from 63k life with 30k fleshcraft to 0 it procced 2 times. a few weeks before it felt like it procced nonstop when fighting affli.