Playing WoW with AI companions

Ah BUT the wonderful thing about this suggestion is that it leave the option to not run these or in fact to run these with actual people (whether friends or strangers).
So the fact that you find something boring might render that thing not worth adding for you it should not mean that it shouldn’t be added for others for whom it might be a less boring activity.

The whole “It’s an MMORPG” thing is irrelevant. Lots of things in MMORPGs are solo activities, Pet Battles, Cooking, Mog hunting, general questing. Doesn’t make them any less MMORPG activities.
Some things can be done solo, some things require a group, some things can be done either solo or by a group. Adding a few more things that can be done solo (whilst not removing any group content) is surely a good thing.

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which applies in a wonder world of super happy kind unicorn world of huggles and kittens.
The end result would be even more botting and people taking advantage of the system to bot more, which i can assume you would all whine about when the effects of mass botting come in to effect on the general player populace.
Couple this with the resources needed to create this and continually maintain and update it … resources blizz just do not have to allocate to something that a minority would like, whilst not doing what the majority wants … which is more content and expansions.

its a sweet idea in hugglywugglyton-by-sea but im afraid the simple logistics of adding something like that just is not practical or worth it. You must be able to see what bots would do to the game if something like this were to be introduced.

What botting has to do with this? Is your thought process something like - “since there are now NPCs to help do instances, bots can use them and bots can now get more gold per hour”? Because if so, who says that this will be more gold per hour? This could easily be made so it is less gold per hour. Because the idea is not to add NPCs to allow a solo player to farm gold, but to add NPCs to allow a solo player to experience more content.

What the OP suggests does not promote botting at all.

It’s an mmorpg. It’s not a multiplayer game. It has multiplayer OPTIONS, of course.
But it has plenty of solo options as well.

How? why? …what?

Did having Torghast being solo or group add bots to Torghast (or to anything)?
Letting some people (who currently don’t) do some dungeons (low level ones, not M+) without needing to recruit (probably toxic) randoms would add bots to what? and how?
These AI dungeons would have little to no reward, they are there for story mostly. Why would anyone bot a story?

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It would drastically dumb down the encounters available. That might be fine for you, but wont be for the vast majority.

If you don’t want to play with other people, then I suggest doing old content you can solo.

Replace the words ‘vast majority’ with ‘me’.
You have no clue what the vast majority wants.

Doing current content that fits the current narrative is more fun. Obviously.

That’s why there is a race for world first and a constant whinging about content drought on these forums. I guess all of those chars are just me posting and talking to myself.

Raider IO/ Wow Progress/ Warcraft Logs… all those places which literally focus on progression, how you progressed… all of that… all of those people in those logs, also me.

It’s exhausting being in so many places at once, but I need to keep the gig alive.

??? Why? They can just be tuned numerically.

It is. Content in the game is being made to play with other people. That’s why we do here. This is an MMO. 1% of the wow population might be playing at world first races etc.

However, the rest of us are not. We’re still progressing through content with other players.

This FW is asking why he can’t have NPC’s to play the game with instead of playing it with other people, because this other game does it.

It’s very simple. The encounters are designed for team work. You can’t communicate with a bot in a way you would communicate with a group in a dungeon of other players.

If you want to raid with Bots … queue LFR.

You tune numbers down enough for the NPCs to be able to handle that automatically, that’s all. Ever played proving grounds in MOP? Try it. Same concept.

How many dungeons have mechanics where just one person can handle them all.

All of them. You tune numbers and off you go. The encounters that are not soloable and need mechanical adjustments to be made such only appear in higher difficulties in raids, and not often.

How many dungeon groups even say “hi” these days?
Most LFD groups don’t say anything.
Not done LFR for a while but last time I did 99% of what was said was spam, toxicity or gibberish.

Nobody is asking for Mythic Raids to be made soloable, nor even M+.

I loved FFXIV’s implementation of dungeon AI. I have leveled a couple of DPS jobs from 70 with this system, and it is pretty enjoyable. I also loved the silly little banter between the AI companions in the dungeons, you could tell this system was done by someone who enjoyed their work.
I was also extremely impressed with how reliable Thancred would hold aggro even on multiple mobs, and how well the healers performed within the limits of game AI.

However, I don’t trust Blizzard to get the party AI anywhere near FFXIV’s level. Somehow anything Blizzard releases these days always has this “built in a shed” touch where everything is a bit janky and wobbly. It has a certain charm, but you’d expect more from a company this size…

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I rarely even do a dungeon at max level, sometimes for the weekly quest I may queue for a normal or heroic but there isn’t really any need to enter those dungeons beyond levelling.

Why would anyone queue for groups if you can just go solo them instead, and what do people expect, lesser loot, so we add yet another tier? If they gave the same rewards as the actual dungeons then it would make them obsolete. Insta queue vs waiting for your team to form.

Cool, that just means that the gameplay in a group isn’t all that sexy, because given a chance you also prefer solo / NPCs. So why try hard to prop up the thing that people jump away from on first opportunity? There’s no reason to.

Playing with friends. Or you like playing with other people. Or for more challenging content (M+).
And yes, I would have lesser rewards for an AI run, probably WQ level of reward. This mode is more for story, learning layouts or trying healing for the first time.
This mode would likely not take away from the current pool of dungeoneers but would entice in those (like me and OP and others) for whom grouped content lost its appeal some time ago.

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No that’s not what it means at all.

I do not prefer solo play at all, at least not in every part of the game. And they’d have to up the incentives to go to groups.

I don’t really feel this kind of solo play has any place in WoW personally.

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At the moment i get 1h20 mins queues…
That is over the top, its way too long.

I wouldnt mind Tanks and Healers AI, when, lets say, 30 mins queue and AI kicked in.

I prefer to play with humans but 1h20 mins its taking the piss.

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