Pardon my pesimism. But looking at the bad situation in China. Do you honestly think they would bother to fix this…if this would ever become a serious issue?
I rather let that 1 guy get his free lot. Then the pug scene get infested with groups who look for 1-2 people as a “free-workforce” for their boosting service.
You realize that leavers getting loot means a whole lot more groups get ruined? NOBODY wants to finish a run where the quitter gets loot. You want people to be slaves for that leaver, that’s sick. You leavers will make any excuse to continue leaving and getting rewarded for it.
u dont see that. its an addon
maybe ask rio to record the number of leaves each player has ;0 then no1 one would that parasite addon
Rio doesn’t record anything, Rio just oragizes the data that Blizzard is collecting. As Blizzard doesn’t collect how many times each person leaves a dungeon, Rio cannot tell you that either.
Its not even “guaranteed” that the leaver will get the loot in the first place.
And I never said that this situation is perfect. Its annoying. But its also the leaser of all evils. Like I said. I would prefer this over:
“Hey its last boss. Unfortunately my GF needs her +15 done. So ty for your effort. BYE!”
You have been removed from the group
Just make it impossible to kick someone in m+, is it that hard for you to think of this yourself? STOP REWARDING LEAVERS BY SENDING THEM LOOT FFS!
Who said I am supporting this?
Most leaves happen at the start of the dungeon. Once that happens. You have plenty of time to decide if you want to 4 man or just call it. If the whole group decided to go on then they also accept that the leaver might get an item in the end.
I personally just also drop out instead of giving the leaver free gear with my work.
*The only exception was when we were 4/5 guild group and we took a “bad puggy dps”. He left but we still finished the dungeon cause I was asked to help another guildy with his +15 dungeon…no matter if its a deplete or not.
So I can join an m+ team afk for an hour or two an get the gear? Sounds fun.
Yes, much better than you hearthing and doing a BG while we finish the dungeon and you get rewarded. STOP SENDING LEAVERS LOOT FFS!
The result is totally the same. Like I said we had this arguement for 3 MF months, and not a single suggestion came up that would be slightly sensible.
You didn’t and cannot say anything that was not said during that 3 months.
Ah any excuse to keep getting rewarded for leaving. You can’t come up with one argument why someone who willingly quits and leaves the dungeon gets loot in the mail and credit. This system is insane and designed to benefit toxic leavers.
Tbh. the original gripe of the topic is people leaving and not leavers receiving loot.
I do not even know if leavers really receive loot, I’ve never left a single sensible run, nor do I run with pugs.
Again if you have this problem I strongly suggest you start making friends, as that is the core of any MMO.
I said if they can’t “punish” leavers by showing a stat of how often they leave then the very least they can do is STOP REWARDING leavers by sending them loot in the mail.
Cause the proposed alternatives can encourage even worse toxic environment and we simply trade “1 approach for another”…with the same result.
And like I said:
If YOU decide to continue to 4-man it then YOU also accept that you may be giving the leaver some free gear. You are ALWAYS welcome to just leave as well.
Yeah in the 15th comment and not the first one. Pardon me for not remembering each and every one. Still I need confirmation.
Do leavers get the loot?
Yes, that’s what happens most of the time because no one wants the leaver to get rewarded. Now you’re literally arguing that the key getting destroyed is better than the leaver not getting rewarded for leaving.
Keys doesn’t get destroyed. This ain’t 7.0
Yes, leavers get loot in mail and credit for weekly chest. This system is fully designed to benefit leavers.
There is a way, not 100% but there is one.
If someone join, look him up on rio, check his others runs memebers so u know he isnt in statis team ( this changes a lot) if he runs with different people u can assume he pugs a lot. Now look at his keys, timed and nontimed. If he has lets say 50keys finished and not a single one untimed, he most liekly leaves as soon as sometbing goes wrong.
Now this cant be applied to everyone, there are expections and like i said it doesnt work 100% but its at least something
On higher keys. The key is already “destroyed” when somebody leaves…