double MM + hpri does.
Again thats like saying you can’t talk about swd sheep cos its not reliable. You could even say theres no point in talking about rake → cyclone at start of arena cos any decent player would stop the cyclone therefore its not reliable and you should never mention it.
I explained it before - basically there’s a time frame when enemy druid can go for rake cyclone at start of arena. Your positioning, dmg of your team etc. can decrease the time frame. At some point the druid simply has to come out of stealth and start healing otherwise they lose. As you mentioned before apparently people die in 0,2 sec. If your team uses cds the druid can’t afford going for rake cyclone cos you force cds, if you trinket and fear him he has to trade trinket 100% and then you can fade cyclone, run behind pillar, press angel etc. At that point the druid is like 10 seconds behind with healing and everything.
Well the truth is i havent played retail much since sl however whenever enemy druid (at idk 1700 mmr, cos higher druids would not dare) would go for such play IT was over for them.
So yes basically if youre experienced and you face bronze players i believe you can get the timing to atleast sometimes fade rake stun.
The game is actually not that hard, at some point you can start seeing patterns and can rather easily predict whats gonna happen and when. But again you play against human beings who can also use their eyes and brain which is the reason its not reliable to outplay enemies.
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Another time you’re proven wrong. Currently the game is momentum based. If you don’t understand what it means I cannot help you. You can literally immune CC on the first go with Redeemer and stack the healing buff so you have more pressure than the enemy team. It’s not that 2x Reju is going to keep someone through being Pummeled by 2 dpses. I play 3s with R Druid and actually he has to Clone to even be able to win anything because it has way lower output. We usually Clone DPS so there is 1 person less to stop and then swap Clones on the healer. If he tried to run through whole arena to stun you most likely someone dies. On top of it there are so many ways to keep someone in combat that Druids cannot restealth whenever they want. Maybe in 2s on bigger maps. Shadowmeld is good but you rather use it for drinking and most R Druids play Highmountain Tauren as R Druids die in swaps easily.
If your partners in the current meta cannot abuse R Druid weaknesses then what can I say.
H Priest fits the meta way more and is basically stronger healer right now. Most of the teams are built around Voidweaver if they can play with it, H Priests and R Shamans. Also as Yzzie said you cannot avoid every CC like Druid cannot avoid it either. You at least have a chance to avoid Harpoon + Trap from Survival R Druid doesn’t. Another way of outplaying such Druid pushes is pre-CD the most likely kill target. When for example I play with my teammates and one of us is being tunneled I know that mine + healer’s CDs go on me and the other DPS in case has to press them early. Same here you can give Guardian + 1x Serenity and the target most likely survives unless you reached high dampening. Also Holy Ward is quite popular choice on H Priest right now. Third most popular PvP talent next to Phase Shift and Redeemer. Maybe it’s time to position defensively and pop it so you don’t get Raked. There are plenty of things you can do. And me saying “skill issue” doesn’t mean I level up H Priest and play it perfectly today or tomorrow. I don’t know it’s limits right now and how much throughput it exactly has. I know overall mechanics. I could level it up and play but playing it good would take me time of course. My point is it’s possible. Now you have to answer few questions:
What is your goal?
Do you aim to be one of the best players?
If yes then do what I say and practice. You won’t outplay every game but practicing gives you more chance to do so. If no then why do you care and post to nerf everything because you cannot handle it? You want your spec to be favoured?
That’s it. I have a lot of gaps in my gameplay. Yzzie met me once and won because we played poorly. Things happen. The most eye opening thing is when you can practice with way better players than you. Me having chance to play against that Priest I mentioned gave me a lot. For example before that I didn’t have arena123 for everything and he pushed me to do it. How? He was playing NE and he Shadowmelded my CC so I lost focus and he CCed me instead. With arena123 it’s not an option.
Then I played Affli a bit played mirror and figured out that arena123 is not enough and I need a macro to fear pet too. It’s these small things and looking for improvement everywhere. What I’m actually trying to do is push you to learn and practice. If you do it just because you hate me and want to prove me something. I don’t care. Then I did a good thing but that’s how every competitive game works. If you aren’t top rank you are far from playing flawless and there is something you can do better. Even if there is a spec that has 4 buttons there might be a guy who press these buttons better.
Also do you think pros don’t lose? I played against a lot of them over the years. Season 1 first week I won over Swapxy, Flappers, Jazzgg and few more. The difference between them and me is that they probably learned from it and won’t lose against me again. Out of 10 matches probably they win 9.
Ah, yes. “I think people can do this because it can happen once in a while through sheer luck”.
No.
You are not getting any further responses until you produce actual proof. Same goes to the shaman. I’m done with your stupid grandstanding.
My bad for trying to explain basic game logic which is apparently too hard to comprehend. Have a nice day.
Its not like you would ever reply with an actual argument.
i agree and mm?
This is just beyond stupid.
Try to play caster DPS.
Get stunned, stunned, silenced, stunned, everything is thrown at me.
They finally run out of stuff to just throw at me.
I fake a cast and get precog.
A few seconds where I can do damage.
Then back to not being able to do anything.
No, just put it all on DR or make precog proc if people throw CC on you instead of interrupts or give casters disarms that are all on different DR with the same frequency as melee have stuns and other ways to stop you from casting.
Ooooo hi pal, I’d like to accept this bet.
My btag is Lockfromwish#2400, feel free to add me and I can show you how to play your own class and then fund my next unclaimed BMAH container in the process.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
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You will after you get a holy priest higher than me. You still haven’t done so. I’m not gonna back down on that since you’ve never done so and still grandstanded about it. Hell, I’ll give you 500k if you get a holy priest to 2300 this weekend, just make sure to screenshot every end of shuffle screen so you show your mmr and the other healers(and their name) mmr and the outcome until you hit 2300 CR, I’ll throw in another 300k if you make it to 2.4k. No need to pay anything on your side if you fail.
So you’re happy to challenge Brodanyo to a 1v1 but not me because of your arbitrary, pointless ‘test’?
I’d avoid more CC on Shadow than you would on Holy because you’re hot garbage at this game and you always will be.
Why are you backing down? It’s free 800k if you’re as good as you claim. You don’t even have to pay anything if you fail and you just straight up refuse to do it. Why is that?
I’ll do the avoid CC one after you hit 2300(with 300k more for 2400), which means you can earn even more gold, unless you fail to avoid CC that is.
Are you just grandstanding or why are you backing down?
I’m sorry but you have been grandstanding several times before this. You’re gonna have to pass that before any further opportunities to earn more gold are offered. If you hadn’t been grandstanding previously, I would have accepted it instantly but as it stands, you have not proven your previous grandstanding claims yet.
Let’s up it to 800k if you get to 2300 and 1.1 million if you get to 2.4k.
What does playing Holy Priest in Solo Shuffle have to do with dodging CC in a 1v1 on a spec that has less tools to do so?
It has to do with your previous grandstanding. I’m not gonna start offering gold to someone that doesn’t back up their previous claims, especially not when they commit ad hominems. Besides, you have nothing to lose by failing, it’s just a pure win-win for you, if you fail you pay nothing, if you get to 2300 you get 800k and 1.1 million if you get to 2.4k.
Upload one video of your gameplay 
When you stop grandstanding.
R1 player tells lifetime Rival/Duelist he’s bad and his ‘struggles’ he cries about every season are a direct consequence of low skill level.
‘Grandstanding’ btw. Are you sure you even like this game? ‘Wahhhhh I’m playing PvP and they’re not letting me do everything I want wahhhhh’
I’ll take this as a concession that you are just grandstanding. Thanks.
And I’ll take every refusal to 1v1 me so I can school you on your class with a spec that has less tools to avoid CC than you as being a concession that you’re just an awful player and have no idea what you’re doing. Thanks.
Sure, do that.
I don’t care either way. You’re just grandstanding.
You have now shown that you are all talk, no bite.