I got some wl like this in soloq that port out of my line so i couldnt heal him, he trys so hard too kite and fail, doing 0 damage
I whisper him next game i got him; i gave you 1000 gold if you just stand still in the mittle of the map and spam fear if youare in trouble, we won the next 2 ofc
if you tripple amount of players then x will happen
Sure, and if paladin wouldnât have healer spec then retri would have even higher cut out, way higher. Now, the fun part is that Retris are toe to toe with BEST warlock specs, to which, according to you, is flockering whole class. Your argument is cutting branch under itself.
If you fix the bug with bane of havoc so it does 40% less damage - as intended. But the class was balanced factoring that in then that is a nerf, albeit a bug fix.
If you buff chaos bolt damage by 25% youâll see higher damage on single target by about 15-25k which is reasonable, this also offsets the bane of havoc bug fix by a fair bit.
All in, similar aoe, more single target on hard casted ability - right direction for the class.
Interesting to see how it shapes up with other balancing in coming weeks.
you understand that each spec has their own rating? Its not like before, now you can actually directly compare Solo shuffle per spec not like ladder where you would be right.
You can use your overtuned mobility defensively aswell you know. Itâs really easy to see when a destro / demo lock intends to kill you
I wonder if there is a thread about it somewhere
they nerf warrior lol
No wonder locks need buffs, they use major defencive CDs against charge 
Man donât u know, if a top 1% lock can do it, anyone can! Itâs just a git gud problem.
Soulburn : Demonic Gateway.
GG
xDDDD yep sounds like the average lock
no not true, yes it was a bugg, BUT since nobody complained or noticed it its a super nerf, the majority of dmg right now is from conflag och and shadowburn since its hard to cast during melee fest, so if u have a base hit of like 25-30k conflag and 20-30 shadowburn, the bugg made it so that all hits was that, now its gonna be 60% of the org hit on the other targets, so its a nerf even ttho it was a bugg.
when a lock is being trained almost no cb is being dished out, and yes the havoc have a cd, but when u combine it with mayham and put the pvp talent on , its no longer a cd to use, its a procc, its a 45 % proc, so its going on the entire match almost all the time, so yes its a buff on cb alone, but its a huge nerf on the dmg profile of the destro in a real game. .specially in ss
considering that 80% of locks dmg output comes from instant spells with relative low dmg output, this will be a major nerf specially in ss where the only thing twarting of two melee of u is that u can punish both of them with the havoc procc, now that wont be possible. so no its a huge nerf even tho its a a bugg fix, it will be good in 2s tho.
Does 40% damage reduction affect the ability to havoc mortal coil?
Difficult to be sure to âPUMPâ, but solo shuffle is a weird set of glasses to look through. Precog fear healer, double coil, slow, port, gate, short wall, big wall. Your team should be doing stuff for you but as locks we still have a potent bit of kit.
Still forgetting that we have single target that hits decent single targetâŠ
no the coil is not affected since its not a dmg, but the havoc proc , almost all destro use it , so the havoci is not a per use spell anymore.
Not sure what youâre trying to get at but yeah cool best of luck 
lets just agree that every meta this game has and ever will have is bad.
harry potter - nope, terrible triangle damp pillar hump games
melee cleave - nope, zugzug no brainz
rmp - nope, no skill no counter just straight busted
mixed teams - nope jungle broken, rps broken, thug broken
so just a question to this genius forum:
what meta we actually want?
damp nope
burst nope
1 min games - nope
10 min games - nope
cd trading meta - nope
sustained meta no cc - nope cause boring
cc fiesta - nope because cannot play game
asking for a friend
u are right there, nothing will ever be good 
iâm actually arguing nothing. the takeaway from my statement should be that affliction is not as bad as it looks in those stats, and that players are more loyal to the role (dps,healer,tank) than they are to an individual spec within a class.
i understand that, but i think you might have missed my point.
Guys. Mark my words. Destro will become s-tier and we will see a lot of double destro teams in rated arena again.
As much as we see anything in rated arena to begin with. SS really gave that a blow. 