PVP IS A JOKE - WOW IS DYING - Neglecting pvp

Wow died after MoP. All communities, people and servers that mattered are gone. Now we have Discord, fragmented servers and nothing but boosters and whales. Its over.

Also Blizzard will NOT address EU server tech before TTW. Its dead on arrival. I can already imagine when I got in any area WM on or off that there is nobody anywhere because of sharding and phasing.

Even made character to Argent Dawn. Cowards there aren’t even duelling outside city gates. Dead game.

why would they duel on argent dawn there to busy rp’ing in gold shire and the cities :stuck_out_tongue: trust me i played there if you came to a Role playing server to pvp you made the biggest mistake of your life heck i made a thread way back asking if there was a non rp guild on Dawn and the replies was not postive :smiley:

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It was mistake indeed because of level 70 boost. iIs my fault and nothing I can do about it except deal with it. Because I remember very clearly that there was PvP in time before WoD. People were absolutely doing lots of PvP.

I guess those people moved on.

The PvE zombies that play their favorite type of content which is as hard as Warcraft Rumble wont even understand you,nor how much difficult is PvP(what dr is,timings of cc,def cd useage,trinket useage,positioning,target switches and calls,and many more details).This people are zombies,they got 5-10 keybinds,just look around the forums,some of them whine that the game is bloated of spells because they got to press 2-3 more buttons now.They cant be saved,i loved your answer to this mindless troll but gave him way too much attention,just see other posters on this thread,Blizzard love their pve zombies and zombies love their pve season resets with brainless gear grind,just so they can do it again next season(some of them think they are big deal cuz they parsed 99 or 100,they executed their pve rotation on the static boss aka dummy boss).

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the pvp brain dead zombies won’t even clear mythic world first despite their so obvious skill :stuck_out_tongue: you pvpers should form a mythic league and try to beat method, limit and echo to world first so show how l33t you are :stuck_out_tongue: after all its sooooo easy you could do it in your sleep right … cough lol cough

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ill give you a single replay just because i feel kind today.Ive been in top 10 world guild,ive been after that more casualy in top 100-300 guilds,so my word matters,not like yours.I was a PvE zombies once,but after i saw how bad they are and i improved i was looking for bigger challange and i found it.The overall bad thing is many of the PvE zombies dont have the ambition to improve,all they care about it how to grind gear as a obedient guinea pig!

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“THE TOPIC IS PVP” and not only arena.

<‘minigame’> huh ???
<‘one-shotting fresh 70s’> HUUUH???
damn you haha xD You clearly do not know anything about PVP xD
and tbh Alessathrina did answer what you wrote accurately.

It is unless u are talking other games where it isnt unless u wanna do pointless arguments with like smokes jump binds etc in CS etc

because its boring and annoying when everyone has 2-3 ccs slows etc, it used to be unique to few specs classes which made it more enjoyable to play the game. just like everyone has self heals etc

obiviously he isnt

lil bro its asmongold on a 2nd account he has no clue how it currently works

why are they holding a 150k price pool tourny every year if it has 0 value with 10k-30k viewers and watch partys.

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I feel that Blizzard has no desire to invent new content.
On the other hand, the game engine is extremely old and prevents many things that they want to add to the game.
The players of the game are constantly protesting, but they go back into the online game and continue
Both sides are guilty

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At least those of us in PvP have to improvise instead of learning the movements of a programmed bot. Most PvE zombies couldn’t even take on the Comp Stomp Brawl bots.
:smiley::smiley::smiley:

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there’s no sane man (and developer) that think that game that has 41 specs and all those specs have over 30 possible buttons and large talent trees is capable of being a balanced competitive experience.
Like what the hell, even games like lol and dota whose developers focus 95% of their resources on developing their PvP modes and basically are a pvp only games can’t reach balanced state, and you want wow to have adequate PvP, it’s hopium at it’s purest :skull:

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i wish they would focus on bgs are remove conquest points.

always loved pvp but always hated arena due to finding equal teammates, right comps and generally to many restrictions to actually play.
solo shuffle was supposed to change that but with 1h queue time it is just an utter failure

LoL is way harder to balance than wow mechanically, because LoL also has things like waveclear, jungle clear speed, tower siege, duel, team fight, late game, early game, mid game, 5 roles and many sub roles, synergies, counters, actual items builds with diverse utility choices, and many more things that I probably can’t even think about. Just laning alone in league is way more complex than wow pvp. Casters in league also have ressources that matter and itemizable cdr. Reducing the mana of a spell in LoL by 5% is a huge change. In wow it doesn’t matter. Comparatively balancing wow pvp is kindergarten, because they only balance 3v3 arena, which is only fighting with no objectives. League also has 100+ champions too.

Honestly asking blizzard to balance wow is not much to ask. They got a huge team and their game is incredibly easy to balance compared to others, because they only care about arena 3v3 for pvp.

As someone that sucks at PvP, I can honestly say PvP in WoW blows… :stuck_out_tongue:

Main problem of league balancing is not all of this things, it’s champion design, BY A LARGE.
I don’t say that league balancing is easier, I say that it’s comparable, league also doesn’t have champions with this amount of active abilities and customization variants, average league champ uses pool of 10 items of choice (if you are not Katarina who can build heartsteel, add to it wits end and still somehow do damage), wow specs chose everything from 2 trees of their choice, with large amount of active abilities, you downplaying it shows that you don’t realize what kind of headache this amount of variables for non super computer AI would be

That doesnt mean we cant have new content like battlegrounds and arenas.
Nor that the attempts and effort to balance it a little more have to stop.
Its simply the right thing to do.
We can apply your logic in other things just so you see it fails:
What if we apply this to discrimination and that there will always be some form of it remaining, does that mean we have to stop policing for inequality of oportunity in the work places for example? no, but it will lessen the cases even if some portion still exists.

Same with PvP it will never be perfectly balanced but that doesnt mean it cannot be appreciated and enjoyed and a little more balanced than yesterday.

Also idk why you compare League to Wow, they got nothing incommon both in budget and resources, neither in gameplay.

Like it’s not even on the same level of complexity. You’re comparing playing chess to playing checkers. Wow pvp is trivial to balance comparatively, and if Blizzard cared, they could do it easily. Yes, champion design got very complex in league too, but this is also showing my point. If you just reduce jayce q mana cost by 10% the champ may become broken all of the sudden. Like balancing wow pvp is nothing and people asking blizzard to do it are completely in the right, and if wow devs can’t do it, maybe they should hire more knowhow. Especially since they only balance 3v3, it’s not much to ask at all.

What’s the difference between arenas? Honest question because last time I played PvP in legion and functionally all the arenas were empty places with sometimes pillar here and there

Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Anyways I’ll go to sleep

What I mean is that balancing wow pvp is so easy and low maintenance compared to other games, they should absolutely not cheap out there. They should develop new epic BGs etc.

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