If u can use buttons shaman can’t really be bad with EVERY tool they have anyway. The issue is to press those buttons and not just ZUGZUG OS. I know it is a LOT but this is how it is supposed to be (bad OS meta doesn’t help). Should we use every spell our class have ? Or just LOWIQSTORM OS everyone you reach with TWICE HP of everyone else AND REDUCED damages TAKEN ?
Yeah ‘good spot’. Remember to use brain, IT BREAKS PVP BECAUSE IT IS TOO OP AND IT IS ONE SIDED XD. As i said multiple times SP it too good in PVP but it’s both SIDE. Where the dumbness will stop ? The major issue is the rune that makes them THE BIGGEST TANK while having the BIGGEST BURST of the game.
If you want this stay as it is, reach the worst dev in history and ask them to make shaman paladin not sided. Else well we know what’s coming and it’s NORMAL.
Paladins can still delete people now, and the extra instant attacks from runes they got in SoD means that Divine Shield has no actual drawback. There is no counterplay unless you can very quickly move away from them, vanish like a rogue or have the ability to heal yourself fast.
I don’t know. Sure, their strength is more of a 1v1 or small skirmish type of thing but they can easily overpower many classes due to Divine Shield. Kiting them is possible but depends on the class.
I believe they’re sleeper OP and that if they get more buffs to help their PvE DPS (justified as they do need them), they will become even more oppressive.
But who knows? There’s people in the forums saying that rogue is bad in PvP. They might not be good at every single form of PvP but to say they’re bad with a strong 40 energy cost and two combo point generator spammable attack that doesn’t even require to hit the back of the target…
pala is op when you actually have support, hard to stop a 3,5k hp pala in your face with holy shock/exo procs and a fat 2h when he is actually being healed and assisted
Most players are just bad at pvp, very bad. This is no oh I’m so good post, it’s just facts. Many are playing classes they’re not familiar with, with new abilities and so on. They just don’t know how to play their classes efficiently or how to counter other classes for the same reasons.
If you face 10 players from any class, 9 of them will suck, but the 10th one will know what he’s doing and you will notice that he does. That 10th one will do really well regardless of his class, but the other 9 will go on the forum crying for nerfs to every other class and buffs to their own.
Just a fun fact from my own experience: ghost wolf is an ability that can be dispelled. So far in SoD it has only happened twice that anyone has done it.
Agreed, facing up against a few SP, it’s easy to tell who’s the bad and who’s the good ones. A competant SP i’ll almost never touch, they’ll know how to counter my totems and use kiting to their advantage while their dots gets my hp down.
A melee hunter that starts the fight with kiting and wittling down my hp at range before they come into melee to engage is a nightmare.
I think it’s quite a bit of the tunnel vision zugzug mentality, and not bothering to understand what went wrong and improve on it.
Oh yeah. I was dozens of ABs in before I faced an SP that knew what he was doing. And it’s not even any rocket science. Fear > wand totem > dispell slows > win. But even this very basic formula to win is beyond the vast majority of players.
If you only care about PvP you are playing the wrong game. Even on retail where the game is way more balanced PvP isn’t in a good place. Play Cata when it comes out. PvP in cata is actually really balanced (besides 2s) and you don’t need PvE gear.
Unless you are one of those broken classes ofc. Immortal iron cannon shamans or other classes being able to oneshot people.
Still, even if you rolled a fotm broken class idk if its fun to pvp now. First dude who hit his I-win-button gets an instant kill, many times from ranged. Not really pvp imo. Might as well oneshot critters in elwynn forest.
I dunno about you guyz but this phase give us the “pure” jungle expirience, outside of bg’s or ashenvale/STV events we have the world pvp which make this game great imo. Go outside fight 1v2 or 2v1(whatever suit u best ) use consumabls, challenge yourself, improve and have fun in the end of the day. Balance blehh, well some classes are OP but not immortal but thats the beauty. Welcome to the JUNGLE!
Rogue can kill people almost as effectively in a bg. And outside of them they are extremely effective. But hey, you can’t just parse your way to killing people, I think.
Cause they were not dominating, simple. If druid was only alliance for exemple it would be asked to normalize it.
But again pointless talk you don’t wanna listen.
How are shamans not allowed to complain about PvP? As a melee in general you get smoked in about 3 seconds, unless you stand behind the ranged people hoping a rogue opens up on a clothie, or a warrior charging in to pick those off. Try catching a druid in the back row as a melee.
Shamans are good, don’t get me wrong. But in bgs or events they can’t do edited by moderator
In PvE they are busted tho.
? The major issue is the rune that makes them THE BIGGEST TANK while having the BIGGEST BURST of the game.
) use consumabls, challenge yourself, improve and have fun in the end of the day. Balance blehh, well some classes are OP but not immortal but thats the beauty. Welcome to the JUNGLE!