PvP realms

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pvp servers and real server communities was the real deal I hope to see the return of it someday but I’m doubtful.

Warmode is utter trash and has completely destroyed wpvp.
wpvp is about community and faction pride.
warmode has none.

Wpvp is not something that you should be able to opt in and out of whenever you feel like it, getting your butt kicked or group/server jump until you have a full raid party that can easily roflstomp your enemies to complete a pvp quest or grind honor.
Wpvp should be a constant consequence and dread of getting ganked and the reward of potientially do the same to your enemies and the thrill that comes with being both the prey and hunter.

Wpvp should have absolutely no actual rewards in it at all except the feeling and potential pride and prestige you get from participating.
It’s not about getting 250 conquest a week or 500 honor level. It’s about making a name for yourself as a worthy opponent, total jerk ganker, flightmaster corpsecamper, fastest ice lancer on the server (or whatever you fancy) etc.

Wpvp is not about fair, even 10v10 fight with equal healers (aka bgs, arena, duels). It’s about either going at it alone or with whatever you can scrounge up in general chat, your fellow guildies or a massive raid from trade at 3am and fight, kill and die for as long as you can. Either until you’ve corpsecamped every major town or your enemy managed to scrounge up an even larger party and you’re the one lying on the ground watching from your corpse as your killers /lol, /spit and teabag your corpse. But you’re not mad, you’re smiling because you know that you’re the cause for all the emotions and feelings in that moment.

Wpvp is not about jumping server groups with randoms from all over the world for quick and easy, cheap action. It’s about finding like minded allies and making a name for yourself while making blood rivals and nemesises that you recognize and go out your way to hunt down or run away from.

Wpvp is with your friends, allies or on your own capturing and holding a tower in crossroads or a bakery in stormwind against and ever increasing number of npc guards, vendors and enemy low levels and high levels for as long you can. Not for any item or currency reward but because you can.

Wpvp is general chat reporting the location of that mega-jerk ganking dwarf rogue and having every player in the chat hunt after him because everyone there has at some point been ganked by him.

Wpvp is having enemy trade chat shout for everyone to flee your capitol becuase the pvp mega guild is once again coming to destroy everything and everyone in it for the sole reason of having people fearing their name.

Wpvp is about: screw the Horde/Alliance, those ganking bastards, I’ll gank every last one of them!

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You wrote it so well. All of this is absolutely true. This is the spirit of WPvP and this thread is making me so sad.

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Don’t think enough people care about it to make it happen. I also like World PvP way more than arena, because it’s more epic

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Yes 100%

Would be awesome if they did this. One realm would be fine. For those of us who miss the old PvP realm system. People who prefer the current system can stay on their respective realm and enjoy Warmode or PvE realm “mode”.

Sure, the PvP realm would eventually get those “I got ganked and I blame Blizz for me rolling on a PvP realm” people, but who cares.

Also nice to see Honor Capped still active.

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I totally agree, a realm where PVP would be on all the time would be much better than war mode which can be turned off at any time

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Stuff like this happened because of WPvP, Swifty joining in some wpvp. Right now there really isnt anything enjoyable to do.

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Defias was amazing, especially during MoP, had some great times on there :smiley:

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I think world pvp is alright in theory but with the sharding it’s a mess. Either you have a ton or Horde or none at all. Personally i enjoy being on an rp sever but i also enjoy pvp. WM allows me to opt into wpvp but since we only shard with other rp servers and those are 70% Alliance, i hardly ever run into Horde players.

Perhaps an opt in server would be better with more balanced sharding or specific open world wpvp zones perhaps like wintergrasp.

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PvP realms no longer worked. That’s why Blizzard essentially changed them all to be opt in PvP realms.

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They could bring one pvp server, that has an automatic faction lock at 50%. That means, that you can’t create a horde/alliance char, if it would surpass a certain ratio. Also, they would have to not allow people to have both, horde and alliance characters, on this server.
It’s not gonna happen though I think, unless they wanna do it as an experiment

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I worry for DF wpvp… will bliz neutralize it more??? :frowning:
I actually liked BfA wpvp simply because it was active, plenty happening, I had fun. I was not doing wpvp in its popular era, so have nothing else to compare to! Barely any wpvp activity in SL is sad. Hoping for DF wpvp, but doubt it.

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The aforementioned Defias Brotherhood had a balanced realm population, and at least during MoP the WPvP scene was very active with the balance of power shifting as individual guilds grew or waned.

All the OP is asking is for one realm, kinda like RPers have their realms. People who enjoy the current system are free to remain on their respective servers.

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I was on Dunemaul which was pretty balanced at one point but realms don’t stay balanced. Populations shift and most migrate to where they are the majority.

Blizzard were faced with a whole load of unhappy campers on realms where the faction divide had shifted against them and made playing a slaughterfest.

RP realms have different rulesets and it’s kind of comical that you can be on AD be the majority faction (Alliance) and benefit from the being the minority in WM on with the extra bonus XP gain/reward gain.

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If PvP was like it was in Vanilla or first 2 Arena seasons it will be fine.
Nowdays its not PvP. It’s more like who got his CD’s to 1 shot the other.
Back in the day if you did the right interrupt you could win a game.
If you are not focus you will lose a game.
Now is just OMGCD’SLOLKEKDED now until cd’s back let’s go with the pack. This thing keep players out of PvP and now with the War Mode it’s even worse.
PvP realms was awesome cause PvP was good.
War Mode came and PvP is on pathetic state so no one cares.

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well yeah pvp realms used to have forced pvp meens u cant turn off pvp flaging why was this changed so dum …

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I have to say I’m an advocate of war mode and for all intents and purposes it achieves what it’s supposed to.

I do think that it’s not quite wpvp, but I wouldn’t say that war mode has failed wpvp, I just don’t think it has provided sufficient incentives/rewards for mass involvement.

BFA had assault events which, despite being temporary, often overspilled into continued wpvp. It was fun despite the reward being little more than just conquest.

Harnessing the above idea, the Devs could create a time specific PvP event to attack Stormwind and kill Turalyon. He could drop mythic personal loot, unique tmogs/mounts, conquest etc during this event only. The event could be calendered for awareness (both horde and alliance). Prior to the expected invasion NPCs could set off alarms, set up barriers and do various things for immersive purposes (bit like WOD garrison invasions?). NPC numbers would be dynamic to account for faction imbalance. Similar rewards for alliance killing x number of attackers.

Obviously the above was just straight out of my head. But it’s the kind of thing that could bring back server wPvP.

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Yea, that is true. But most content eventually becomes irrelevant. Content like Korthia will become irrelevant come DF etc. So even if the realm population eventually shifted to one side or another, it might the give players who enjoy WPvP content to enjoy for some time, until maybe shifting.

You were not forced to play on a PvP realm. You yourself decided, as a person who can presumably take responsibility for their own decision, that you are in agreement with the danger of ganking and can take it.

If people rolled on a PvP realm and then cried that they got ganked, then they only had themselves to blame. Neither Blizzard nor the person who killed them made the decision to play on that realm for them.

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why u think i play rogue still a sub rogue i love ganking players what quests with pvp on :rofl:
and if they log out and make a horde just to can curse at u in whisper it is job well done :smiley:

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I had no idea I was starting on a PvP realm, I went to play with people I knew. Had I known there would have been no way I’d have opted for it :laughing:

I soon learnt that levelling on a PvP realm meant regularly being picked on by players higher level than me for their ‘fun’. Or having your quest givers annihilated by some max level character while you tried to survive the attacks and hand in/pick up the quests before you and the NPCs were dead again. Don’t get me wrong, those players weren’t doing anything wrong.

I eventually moved to a PvE realm and it was the best thing I ever did. Some people prefer to play with that added danger of constantly having to look over their shoulder. I just want to be able to get through the levelling experience or do my dailies without being killed.

Then BfA came along and I needed to turn WM on to gain more AP, it was also an advantage turning it on for levelling because it made it faster. You rarely got killed, just in zones where you’d run into max level characters mostly. IMO it is wrong to bribe PvE players into WM on. It should be all about PvP.

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even more fun to sap a person with no pvp trinket stuck in sap for a hole 1 min then it is like 2 sec left u sap him again and he stuck a other hole min :rofl: