True and understandable but it’s his right to spout his nonsense.
We don’t want be they guys that are known for not allowing others to speak there opinions cause we don’t like them
Just ignore and talk to others.
Or do like me, leave the forum.
good evening gentlelves and farewell
Thanks for this wonderful poll !!!
Now we know that Blood Elf players want Silvermoon to be neutral in Midnight.
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That’s what you’ve literally been doing for years, Erevien.
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Oh wow 10 people voted such impressive.
I repeat
No its not, be serious.
The lack of being able to use it as a city makes it no different than set dressing for the side that is “not allowed to be naughty” and nothing more.
And I agree if they do that to a major settlement or city then they should do it to all of them.
You ain’t losing anything in either case though. I don’t lose access to Bel’ameth as an Alliance city/Settlement just because the Horde can be in the region without being attacked by useless guards anymore than I lose a city because the Horde can be there while the useless guards are attacking them.
Its silly.
And thats even assuming Silvermoon will be the neutral hub and not Quel’Danas which will be the actual target not the city itself.
I get the idea you’re going for but there isn’t really a lot of distinction there anymore anyways. Most of their issues with each other are done and dusted by the end of TBC. Now all you really have is elves annoyed other elves stuck with the Horde.
But also High Elves have been returning. They’re one people and they all know it. High and Blood are at best political inclinations now.
Possibly. Technically there isn’t a reason for them to not be in Silvermoon. Its Quel’Danas they should have been exiled from since thats where the Sunwell would be in danger…
I digress on that though, I think whats going to happen is people will stop being idiots about how the Naaru work and realize the Sunwell has a Light and Void potential regardless and that one could probably pull that void energy out and either use it for something or destroy it specifically and the Sunwell wouldn’t have any void left after.
Perhaps Xal will steal it.
Anyways yeah I agree some lore there would be good.
With these relatively limited choices I’d probably go with 2 honestly. >.>
Also keep in mind the Void elves would probably be part of that reunification.
Hell the way its worded it could include the Nightborne and Night Elves too.
Blizzard never made race cities neutral. They won’t start now when 20 years of game tells a different Story.
I am a firm believer we should be adventurers and not part of any faction. Let the factions do what they want us players being bound to them just makes it impossible to write conflicts with real consequences.
That’s why blizz abandoned the faction war. If they decide to make all city’s neutral I’m super Okey with that since that goes in the direction of my vision but for the time being I am a hord player.
I am one since vanilla and I like the horde. I don’t dislike the alliance because of that but I don’t like when the factions get treated unfair.
When the nightelves lost there city the forsaken lost there city. Then the elves got a new home (I refuse to acknowledge that as a city) and the forsaken got the ruins of lorderon back.
That where all equal scenarios. Let’s say they make silvermoon neutral.
For me that’s only oke if they also make an alliance city neutral as well but we don’t really need two hubs for midnight.
I’m pretty certain blizzard is not going to make all city’s neutral since we still have resistance to the no faction war thing and those peoples opinions are very valid too.
So I would rather see them make a new hub and don’t screw around with city’s and territories.
I said in this post multiple time the best way to make everyone happy is to use the part of silvermoon that is destroyed right now and rebuild it.
Make that the hub. That way the elve reunification is in an elven city but the horde does not lose a city. Maybe even allowe all elves to go into silvermoon but not the other alliance members.
And yes I said lose. I might think that there should be no faction bonds to our chara but currently they are bound and there are people that do like it that way and that would prefer the conflict to be part of the story.
And in that case it would be a loss
It’s not neutral; it’s allowing the other faction to enter. The city would still be horde.
Just like Bel’ameth is alliance territory. Horde just gets to go there too.
I personally expect for some new, in-canon temporary base of operations being established. With Quel’Thalas being given an update, I expect there will be ample room for such.
While I would love a shared Silvermoon I think it will be like the Nightborne “home base” in the Nighthold, a separate maybe instanced shared area and outside of that the horde city
Literally the story is saying neutrality is becoming a thing (elfwise) lol
But yeah I doubt they’re going to turn a major city neutral. More likely that the Isle of Quel’danas will be a neutral hub again.
If they do allow Alliance in Quel’Thalas it will just be a Bel’ameth concept and nothing more.
(Which again isn’t neutral.)
Indeed, fair.
I agree. I do think if they’re going down this route they need to make sure that something equally significant allows the Horde the same thing.
I don’t consider what we have in Bel’ameth or Gilneas “neutral” so much as a recognition of the “peace” but doing even that to a major city should be done equally.
Which does mean the Horde owes me two small areas. 
I’m betting they’ll make the hub Quel’danas honestly but I could see them do something with the destroyed part of the city.
Or one of those parts of the land we haven’t yet had access to.
It’s Marshall redpath. He leads the rotbrains it’s right in the starting zone of the forsaken.
You meet him twice in the zone once when you check on him and he doesn’t want to be part of the forsaken and then he is allowed to go and live his second live how he pleases that’s an option sylvanas gives every newly risen.
Later we need to fight him and his group since they plan to attack the forsaken. It’s not clear if they do that cause they are mad cause they got raised and see themselfs as monsters now or if the name rotbrains has a more literal meaning.
There are also unnamed forsaken right where you player character starts that get raised by Valkyr ans then decide that this isn’t what they want and then they just die again on the spot which is a pretty interesting fact since this implies the resurrection sylvanas uses is a purely voluntary thing you don’t have to accept.
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Thank you. I played Forsaken quests only in vanilla so it was interesting to get familiar with this new quest line.
Marshal Redpath was a defender of Southshore, before it was destroyed by the Forsaken and he was killed as a result.
And now think of this: those, who murdered you and your family/friends and destroyed your town, reanimate you as a Zombie and say “Hey! Would you like to join us?” No Wonder Redpath and his followers were planning an attack on the Forsaken, it makes perfect sense to hate and wish death to those who murdered you and then reanimated you as a Zombie.
Sylvanas’s resurrection, or more correct term reanimation, is anything but voluntary. The Vaklyrs do not ask dead corpses, if they want to be resurrected, they simply resurrect hundreds of corpses on mass in the hopes that some of them will join Forsaken to bolster their ranks.
What you probably mean by “voluntary” is a choice whether to join forsaken or not. While it is indeed what they say and is partially true, I find it to be a lie and manipulation due to a couple of factors, among them:
- You’re in a land dominated by Forsaken with few remnants of Scarlet Crusade and Scourge. If you don’t join Forsaken, you will eventually get killed by Scourge or Scarlet fanatics. Thus the newly reanimated folk is being coersed to join Sylvanas.
- There is not a single established group of Forsaken in WoW outside of Sylvanas lackeys. Marshal redpath existed for like few days before it was destroyed.
In contrast all other major races have independant off shoots: humans (scarlet crusade, bloodsail pirates, argent dawn, sindicate etc etc), dwarves (Aerie Peak, Thorium Brotherhood), Night Elves (Cenarius Circle), Orcs (Blackrock Clan, numerous Legion Cultists, Nagrand orcs), Trolls (Zandalari before BFA, Gurubashi, Amani etc), Blood Elves (Kael’thas Followers, Scryers) Tauren (Grimtotem).
3, The very act of reanimation the dead is vile and cruel. By default a dead person does not want to be reanimated into Zombie and in many cases being coersed into this Forsaken group that were their enemies in life.
To me it seems that she resurrects undead with free will not out of her “kindness”, but because she lacks a lich king’s power to simply bend them to her will the way Arthas did and has to use other means, like manipulation or finding a common ground to make them join her ranks.
That started to change in BFA, when she manages to reanimate dead Night Elves against their will, although her powers were still pathetic compared to Lich King as many resisted her magic (you can see it by doing the quest as a horde).
I’d love if they give High Elves (and possible Void Elves) new city, not necessarily in Quel’thalas, and thus create a hub for Alliance, while doing some proper renovation to Silvermoon and retaining it as a horde city.
Don’t mind if we get some specific quests that would allow high elves / void elves or all alliance races to temporarily enter Silvermoon, but not permanent basis.
But realstically Blizzard would be too lazy for this and instead give us one boring hub for both factions.
What I meant by “voluntary” is that you don’t have to accept the reanimation or atleast that’s what it looks like.
The nameless forsaken right next to you stand up realise there fate and say that that’s not what they want and then they fall over dead.
Atleast to me that looks like they have some sort of control over accepting the reanimation or declining it kinda like we can when we get resurrected.
I’ve just checked this Forsaken appearance area by creating a character.
Those who refuse to serve Banshee either go insane and run away like Zombie or commit suicide (Wowpedia confirms that it is a suicide).
And those who refuse yell “I did not ask for this, why did you raise me?”
Pretty much clear indication that there is no choice of accepting or declining reanimation.
Those poor fellows commit suicide after being raised to avoid being undead, which only adds to the gruesomeness of the situation.
I dream about a big only blood elves guild 
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Yeah there are some that run away in a crazy state maybe cause the brain was to damaged or the reanimation caused a trauma.
For the ones that die after proclaiming they did asked for that I haven’t seen any weapons so I don’t I assumed they just rejected the reanimation.
Like a mind over body thing and then they just die again.
Edit: that’s atleast how I interpreted what I saw
I think it’s simply the lack of game tools on blizzard’s part to portrait how exactly they kill themselves. And you don’t necessarily need a weapon to kill yourself.
And as I said previously, wowpedia confirms that it is a suicide that they commit.
Mhh I never used wowpedia before where do they get there infos from. Like is that official or is it player contribution.
If that is what it is then that absolutely is a display of how much some people don’t want to be raised again.
And I’m kinda disappointed at how bad blizzard is at portraying stuff