Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

As a general thing, and not targeting anyone specifically, but does anyone else find it troublesome when people type things like “Thats a lot of words, I don’t understand it”

Can anyone who went to school vaguely recently shed some light on this, do they not teach literacy in the schools the same way anymore, or have they dialled back on it in favour of computer studies lessons or something, which I could understand, due to the shift in media, but would explain the young people response of “Thats too many words, I can’t read/understand it!” To which many adults would be like “That really is not a lot of words, have you ever read a -book-? A short story even?”

I mean I can understand People with conditions like Dyslexia, which I would personally find awful to live with, and I totally get that some people just don’t read as much as others, my little brother doesn’t, he’s not thick at all, just it isn’t his idea of fun. But it does seem to be on the increase in more recent years, and I wonder how much is due to this modern fad of using textspeak and as few words as possible to communicate even though a)We’re not charged per letter over the internet, and b) sometimes the abbreviations then have to be explained to more literate types, thereby making them pointless in the first place!

‘smth’ made no sense to me until I asked, and then I had to ask whether ‘smh’ meant the same but even shorter.
In both cases the person using the acronyms had to use more letters to actually explain what ‘smth’ and ‘smh’ meant, than they would have done if they had just actually typed the words out in correct English!
Maybe grown ups need our own version of ‘TL:DR’ , perhaps ‘TA:DMS, TA’

“Too Abbreviated, Doesn’t Make Sense, Try Again!”

Sadly so. Still the same. Some people don’t realise that High Elves exist that are not members of the Silver Covenant, and you still have absolute loonies who believe that Instead of playable High Elves, Silvermoon Quel’thalas -and- Suramar (No idea how they got dragged into this) should all be just outright given to the Alliance wholesale.

Needless to say, this all makes playable High Elves seem less likely than ever, when people come out with demands like that…

Seems that way, There are Naga around since their transformation, and the Shal’dorei seem to have come under the same benefits as the Kaldorei, which kind of makes sense. I suppose it is similar to how the Sunwell works on Sin’dorei and Quel’dorei alike, no matter how far away they are.

I suppose one way of looking at it, is that the Exile of the Quel’dorei was not -so- long after the Sundering, and so the ebb and flow of magic was doing very strange things, perhaps it was a sheer physical removal from the mainstream of society, as there would have been residual magic there, after all, that is what caused the mutation from Trolls in the first place, then when the Sunwell was created on Quel’danas it stabilised their condition.

We know this because Naga, Night Elves, Nightborne, Quel’dorei and Sin’dorei can all breed ‘true’ to their type of Elf (Obviously the Quel’dorei are a shrinking population, but two Quel’dorei would still have a Quel’dorei child. If they could put down the Human boytoys for five minutes or so :stuck_out_tongue: ) We have at this moment no idea whether Ren’dorei are even capable of having children, and to be honest, Blizzard probably want to leave the morally horrible mathematics of that best left unsaid.

So whilst some Naga and Shal’dorei are incredibly ancient, they too, like the Night Elves are likely to have picked up on ageing again.

This said. Naga are just flat out weird. They make no sense, especially the newer ones born since Aszhara’s deal, (and we know there are newer ones)

Why do the females have chesticles? Neither male nor female Naga have ‘bits’ as we know them, so likely are similar to actual snakes in that regards. We know they lay eggs, so why in the name of all that is unholy do female Naga still have lady bumps after ten thousand years of evolution? Who are they going to breastfeed with them? They lay Eggs!

All very strange…

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Maybe they are swim bladders, like the ones inside the fishes… :thinking:
This calls for an investigation!
To Goldshire my trusted steed! To the beach! Lets catch some Naga girls
And play volleyball
And a cocktail or two wound’t hurt anyone :cocktail:
For Science ™!

I now can’t get the -very- bromantic scene from Top Gun where they are playing Volleyball out of my head, just with Naga instead. I hope you are happy with yourself :stuck_out_tongue:

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The blood elves have the Icon of Blood. What would be a good name for a high elf crest that probably predated the rise of the blood elves? “Icon of high” just doesn’t feel right.

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Hmm, got a few ideas;

Icon of Forbearance (They have after all been Exiled twice, once from Kalimdor, once from Quel’thalas)

Icon of Truth (They do believe they are the Elves who are true to their original ideals, no matter how subjective an opinion that is)

Icon of Rebellion (They are Rebels against the legal state, before that sounds weird, bear in mind that the Confederates in the American Civil War proudly labelled themselves as ‘Rebels’ and we all know the Rebel Alliance were the good guys in Star Wars)

Icon of Defiance (Self explanatory)

Icon of the Phoenix True (Both the Iconography of the Blood Elves and High Elves are actually a Phoenix rising, not an eagle or any other bird, which have no cultural resonance for them)

Interesting question.

(Edit, sorry, misread the question, I thought you meant an icon -since- the shism, if this was ne pre-schism I’ll need to think on that a bit)

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Yes, welcome back

true there are , but asking most developed one like silver covenant , their lore, is more then reasonable

i dont like that bird in middle, considered to remove it?

No. That’s a part of the core design. It’s not a “such as silver covenant” crest. That bird feels the same way about you as you feel about it, by the way.

well , listen. You came here to ask our opinions about your work. Which isnt that great and you might think of it.

My suggestion remove that bird, which actually have no meaning with highelves?

If I had valued your opinion in any matters at all regarding high elves, and if I though you actually knew what you were talking about, I might have considered it.

awww, thank you.

You’re welcome
to come up with your own design.

Well,

works kind of nicely, though. If my hypothesis is right, and Thori’dal is supposed to be based on a crest that predates the blood elf name, the phoenix was used as a symbol for the high elves. The unicorn might have been a naval symbol, or used for an otherwise specialised group. Maybe.

yes they are there but main focus ar night elves, look who stands in middle of Heart of Forest…

so overrated race …

Please no more elves, both factions have 2 elf types and that is enough.

No one is asking for more Elves. Just for hairstyles/hair colours for Velfs really. Then we have playable High Elves.

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buy a wig then

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I think you are right, the Phoenix is a feature that both High Elves and Blood Elves use in their iconography, and banners, so it definitely predated the Thalassians renaming themselves as Blood Elves.

The Unicorn is trickier to place. It has to have come from somewhere, and we know that it is not of Kalimdor origin, as it is not really a Kaldorei thing. It is only really seen on naval sails, however I have an idea on that front, let me, aheh, float it by you and see if it makes sense.

We know that the Broken Isles were separated from Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms by the Sundering. We also know that the Broken Isles were where many of the Highborne were situated, as a demographic, before Kaldorei civilisation itself sundered. apart from Zhevra, which we see in Tauren lands, there are no Unicorn type creatures on the continent the Kaldorei live on. There -are- however many on the Broken Isles.

So it would have a cultural frame of reference for those Highborne exiled who became the Quel’dorei. It would also have a frame of reference to the idea of sailing across the wide seas to find a new home after exile.

It is entirely possible that it became a symbol in that way. Not so much a cultural one, but of -how- they had came to be where they were.

If that sounds outlandish, I’m just gonna say that what people identify as the Flag of England, red cross on white, wasn’t the only flag of England at all. During the Crusades the English, having huge amounts of manpower yet not yet the dominant Navy they would later produce, hired Genoese ships. Now they did not -steal- the Cross of St George from the Genoese, but it acquired a much larger prominence and was ultimately adopted as the official Flag of England in 1660. Previous flags were big on Fleurs de Lys after 1066, and three Golden Lions on red, and before even that a White Dragon on Red, and a golden Wyvern (An Actual Wyvern, not a Warcraft Wyvern, which is actually the mythological beast called a Manticore).

Because the English soldiery arrived on these vast ships, with white sails and red crosses upon them (Still the emblem of the city of Genoa to this day) Many associated them with the symbol, and the English themselves started to use it as an emblem.

As a result, a Naval symbol actually sprung to national prominence and cultural acceptance.

If that could happen in our real world, then why not WoW I guess?

The Unicorn being a symbol of Exile and traversing the waves, and as such, a Naval flag for the Quel’dorei to be?

It would make sense why we see it on some of the older ship models.

One Night Elf, One Dragon, One Fae, Two Fyzandians, and currently at 8/9, One Ancestral Tauren hero.

Is it a Fyzandian zone then?

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What we want from the barbers but they won’t give us them! Now you see the issue. Good talk.

one more and we are fine?

night elf zone. Obviously?