Adding another playable race of thalassian elf is no use, the void elves are here …
High Elven Legacy is to be shared between Void Elves and Blood Elves through customization options.
Blizzard has already started the work, strongly the continuation (natural hair colors, hairstyles, tattoo …).
Don’t bother. Discussing with Moontear just ends up with flag posting. Just let him get devoured by his own ego.
I have asked the admins/mods to look into our buried posts as none of them as far as i can see break CoC .
I’d tell you the reason used for banning me,but I’d break the tos if I do so =/
Not worth it but i feel your posts being buried are unjust and multi flagged in a very suspicios way .
Dark ranger please! i wana be emo elf
There are alliance-affiliated high elves in the game since TBC. They are not playable as some people want though. Arguably, if there would be no void elves, but their racials would be portrayed as arcane-related stuff and as a full-time high elves, there would be no requirement for retcons or negative effect on the gameplay. It’s just that the devs are stuck in the “know better than you” mode, which some players are fine with, and some - not so much.
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but players want them playable!
Not really. Blood elves can look like high elves but they are horde. And void elves can’t look like high elves and have more differences then similarities to high elves.
exactly, they are part of the alliance ALREADY…just what we ask , them to become playable because a lot of players want them to play.
Not void or blood but high elf.
So… Ally wants Hight Elves when they already have full skin-eyes custom for Void Elves.
Only that = Alliance owning one additional Allied race compared to Horde.
Just Immagine Nightborne with NE skin-eye customs… this would probably make horde players insanely happy and yet we have Ally players complaining becouse High Elves arent an uctual Allied Race but just additional color palettes?
Horde might get something too, to no surprise. Taunka, leper gnomes, earthen dwarfs, saberons - something from the currently exististing roster of allied to the horde races, or just as a way to add extra animations.
People wanted to have them playable for over a decade. Telling how people should feel about something is a futile exercise. There was never a reason not to add them beyond stubborness.
Official one was “there are too few of them”, but with the void elves being a fraction of a fraction, there is no way to take the idea seriously.
After that it’s all about listening to the playerbase, or ignoring one. Which approach people want to financially support - everyone can decide for themselves.
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Well if i really have to pick an Allied Race to join the horde… im sorry people but im all in with Man’ari… and its sad that many people just shove them aside.
But going back to the discussion… well BS excuses… take into consideration that we had these dumb excuses since Vanilla pre-alpha one of the many famous ( Night elves joining the Alliance) Lore wise we really dont have any idea why NE joined any faction trurely… during the defence of Mount Hyjal , The Horde with thrall was there but jaina wasen’t representing the alliance at that time but yet they magically joined Alliance. And yet 2021 we still dont have any reason of why, apparently tyranda forgot that the horde was there during Hyjal. The only reason that i believe they never added Hight elves to the alliance is becouse 1: Horde already had Blood Elves, 2: The remaining High elves lore wasen’t that much relevant to switch it with Blood Elves. 3: diversification between factions.
Well, in 2021 we do have a reason for why now joining the horde would be really odd for the night elves, although, that does not mean that will stop the devs from doing illogical stuff.
When it comes to the way the allied races picked, I saw it mentioned once in an interview:
Now, the problem is that there are no details about who exactly is the target audience who will be “used” to evaluate whether or not something ended up being “cool”. Hence it does not explain much, just gives an opening to understand the thought process of the devs a bit more.
Since the horde and the alliance are separate factions game-play wise, makes it not too relevant IMO.
I am not quite sure what you mean. I do not talk about some Kirin Tor elves, I mean the ones like in Terokkar Forest, or in Hinterlands, who are friendly to the alliance and hostile to the horde.
So, lore wise fully alliance characters are alliance characters. Can’t play them though.
Seems the same as 1 to me. I can get a theory that if the high elves would be in the alliance that would make some people leave the horde, but the current state of the faction balance, although started to be troublesome in Cata (hello spine of Deathwing), went full swing in WoD. A few more details:
So, the reasons for it to be a danger for the horde population are non-existent for about half a decade.
I fail to see anything bad that would happen if instead of the void elves those would be the high ones to begin with, that would fit lore, and have no negative impact on the game-play.
Currently it could work if there would be interest in doing things. Might even be like pandas.
That, or the alternative with draenei animations would be mogu.
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Diversification meaning that both the Horde and Alliance would feel different with different races etc. so it does make sense…
By lore i mean that none of the high elves groups have an interesting Lore to be added up.(compared to BE lore) so they most likely slipped in the back of priorities. (and faded away)
The video about Requirements about Allied Races is true but i wont say completely true.
Trust me if i say it wouden’t surprise me if they add more favourite races to the other faction (BE-> VE model etc) just becouse people will race change and you know what it means. (same reason im surprised man’ari aren’t in horde… i mean draenei are the fan favourite race of the alliance… LOADS of people would race change to a man’ari inside the horde) i mean in the end they did create the VE out of thin air and yes probably becouse people wanted High Elves but im sure there are more reasons behind it.
And the video about the guy talking about factions “imbalance” yes but the guy is only talking about racial abilities… and now im pretty sure that only the 2% of the player base would pick a specific race to deal that 0.2% + of dps. or more. Back in the days racials were a LOT more important… but again that was in the old days.
Ever since nightborne added the nigh elf animation to the horde, and void elves were weaved out of nothing, I do not think that will remain an argument for a long time.
Depends. For example, the events of the 4th War could’ve been presented as some races who were not sure about their allegiance now making a choice to drift away from the horde.
Or if the devs would want to be “morally grey”, even though I am not sure they have the people in the narrative team to pull it off, they could show that while the leaders do buy the idea of “it was all Sylvanas”, the “common folks” could be more in the “I’m not sure about it” camp.
Both could be impactful in the context of what happened in BfA (leaving aside my opinion that the events of the expansion were poorly chosen and badly handled).
When it comes to the old lore, there is always (more or less) a way IMO. For example, the horde branch of the high elves could focus on finding a new path, exploring more of their “eternal sun” believes / ideas, have more about commonalities with nightborne with both races being a catalyst for each other to learn more and move into the shared future.
On the alliance side though, the story could go in a direction of “comming in to peace / understanding the past”. There are statues that depict elves as high elves (dancing elf statues) in the Well of Eternity dungeon and Tomb of Sargeras, even though at the time high elves should not even exist. So, there is more to reseach about, for example, why high elves had Sanctum of the Moon
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sanctum_of_the_Moon
So, there are ways to look into the same history from different perspectives or for different goals IMO.
To me it feels like the usual “solving the problems the players do not have by tools the players do not want”. I do not think the players wanted to get “kind of but not really high elves” and that the race with next to 0 backstory as is a valid alternative for something so requested.
I am sure they recognized some opportunities behind it. But commercial software is not a dance for 1 person. It’s not enough for the devs to focus on their likes or dislikes.
By chasing their vision they left questions and some disappointment. Hardly unexpected. The question only is if the devs will still consider their view of how the game should be developed as a good one, or they learned something in the process.
That’s where it all started. And the reason for me linking it is because a lot of players believe that
Hence having high elves avaliable to the alliance would not be a reason for the players to leave the horde, thus it’s safe for the “identity of the horde” if there is left any after what the devs did in the WoD+ time frame.
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No. They added nightborn and void elves. If they add more races it should be something new. Not a third reskin.
^^ This. We have enough elf variants now.
No it should be what players ask - highelves such as silver covenant
If they should do as players ask then I’m pretty sure that a third reskin of a race is far down on the list,compared to more content,skill design and other QoL related updates.
Just be happy with what they changed for the void elves and blood elves.
Edit: im not sure if you base this “we want” on any sort of research. This thread is way to long and I’m not searching 5k replies for it. So if you got anything to back up the “we want” claim then please share,otherwise its just your “we want” vs my “we want” 
Preach it sister!
We need tall, kitsune-like Vulpera, a Pandaria-variant for example 
When you folks gonna come over to the Stonemaul Ogre’s as a playable race thread? It could probably use the healthy energy that this place received! It sounds cool, lets spitball ideas and zones and mounts and racials…