Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race (Part 1)

Well this thread turned into a dumpster fire real quick. Does this happen often around here?

Hey, I’m Sara, not Moontear. I know that there race is the same.

Want it to be like the NA Forums where everything is a dumpster on fire.

It was a response to the fact that you said you disagreed. So I clarified :slight_smile:

Ah. Sorry. I don’t fully think of everything before I reply.

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Oh ops sorry I think I misunderstood and thought you were talking politically there :smiley:

It is, blood elves and high elves, two different races and factions where they belong to. High elves are high elves, blood elves were high elves, now they are not anymore.

By culture, no they aren’t.

Biologically? Exactly the same.

Here’s a good reason why your logic doesn’t work.

If physical features determines that Blood Elves and High Elves are different races altogether, then how do you explain Blood Elves with blue eyes? According to you, they are High Elves then. But you also keep saying that, oh, the label is “Blood Elf”, so they ARE Blood Elves with blue eyes then, again, according to you, which means that physical features does NOT determine they are different races, because the blue eyes are not unique to High Elves.

See how contradictory you are?

Yes they are, their lore are different since they split. They are not in same faction.

Skin tone for using fel magic, eye color and VOICE. which is completely different.

Horde bias, “we want blue eyes”, Ion- yes my beloved pet faction.

They are blood elves, in-game, in lore, in books. they are blood elves not high elves.

Were but now not anymore. Yet voice is different, skin tones, high elves are in alliance, blood elves horde.

Both have blue eyes. Both have the same skin tones. Voice is easily explained by having another voice actor, why would it even matter???

Your delusion is actually getting worrying at this point

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You have disproven nothing. You’re still so wrong, I can’t fathom that you honestly go on believing that what you are saying is true xD

You have defeated yourself with your own arguments. Congratulations.

I am done trying to convince someone who can’t let go of their pride :stuck_out_tongue:

If he hasn’t changed his stance in years, he never will. Knowing that this is his third thread on the matter because the two previous ones had reached the maximum number of replies, I think that he is either the biggest troll on this forum, or that he’s more bullheaded than a Tauren. All the arguments we have given him had already been given to him by other players in this very thread long ago. Dude doesn’t care :woman_shrugging:

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Explains a lot.

I wonder if they can’t get a hold of those old voice actors for High elves. Those voices are different from the blood elves. Both the male and the female. And They were very similar to Warcraft 2 Elven ranger.

Doesn’t that goes against Sarallestas Point further up that blood elves were “not” addicted to Fel? Demonic Energies=Fel, Fel=Demonic Energies (Demonic energies/Fel comes from Demons, does not come from anywhere else. It is part of them and those crystals holds demons, how else would they gotten demonic energy with out the source of a demon? and to trap a demon inside a crystal they need to use Fel magic. There is no other way. So blood elves, not all but there those who had to use fel magic to capture demons and maintain the crystals so the demons don’t break out and when a demon been dried up they had to get another demon inside the crystal to drain from. Even in the city there is Blood elf draining fel from the crystal. He is probably a warlock. Probably the ones that had more reddish skin were the ones that was playing with Fel magic and had more green glowing eyes. You can also find crystals in outland where Shadow council members and a draenai are locked inside the crystal, Illidan body was also locked in a Fel crystal in the Legion expansion. If anyone never wonder why there are eyes staring at you where ever you go. But ofcoruse those demons are probably dead after the Sunwell was reignited and they stopped using the crystals) but then again Christie Golden have been wrong before. For example In the Sylvanas book she wrote that High elf buildings have always been red and gold. Which everyone played Warcraft 3, that is not true, even In the Overwatch cinematic of Sylvanas and Uther talking to each other through their souls, the buildings in the background is Blue and gold. Unless…Blizzard is planing something and its not a mistake from Christe Golden.

That might be best option for us I guess if blizzard won’t give the Alliance High elves their own place. But Vereesa Windrunner and her Silver covenant need to be there to invite us into the Silver Covenant. Or Vereesa and Alleria and Sylvanas.
Perhaps an updated Character background of Stormwind of different area maybe or Update for both Humans and High elves. And they do need a HD version of the Silver Covenant Tabard and HD mount and Heritage armor Similar to Sylvanas but Silver covenant Style of colors. And more Elven Hairstyles for male and female either reinvision version of blood elf hairstyle like the void elf females have of blood elf hairstyle or completely new but still Elvish.

I remember that as well but at some point blizzard retconned that. For what purpose I don’t know, Since even in Warcraft 3 they even say it was Kael’thas that did it before rejoining the Alliance where Garithos was leading the Lorderon remnants. That the “people” changed their name to blood elves but only a king or someone of royal blood can do that.

Well Not quite, The High elves in Allerian stronghold did not know that Silvermoon had fallen or Sunwell was destroyed until the dark portal was open again when we arrive. They did however knew there was blood elves in Outland. Considering what Taela Everstride Says

Gossip

No, don’t feel bad. I get that a lot.

I’m a HIGH elf, not a blood elf. Don’t worry, I’m not going to suck all of the magic out of you.

Maybe they tried to make contact with the blood elves but got attacked by Keal’thas forces because Allerian stronghold were wearing alliance colors, that is Lorderon alliance colors. In Terokkar Forest we see them working against each other.

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This contradicts what I’ve said how…?

High Elves have always worn blue and gold, the fact that these are the Alliance colors is a coincidence.

Yes because it was to please horde and justify it by giving blue eyes for void elves. :slight_smile:
No, blood elves can not customize same lighter-pale- silver skin color as high elves have.

Voice different, faction different, lore different from split etc.

Those blood elves in Terokkar Forest was there before we arrived, they came when Kael’thas did. They attack both Alliance and Horde.

That is a hole in the lore which is Blizz’s fault, as the information I provided comes directly from the race lore information on their website.

However, in the end, it makes no difference whether Blood elves consumed fel to sate their magic addiction or not. It didn’t evolve them into another race. They are High elves biologically but Blood Elves of identity and culture.

The High elven variants, all of them, have always relied on some source of magic to sate a thirst. It seems to be in their nature that magic is something they need to feed themselves, or they will go crazy. Hence why we have withered NB and wretched Blood Elves. This is also what makes these Highborne/Nightborne cousins different to the Kaldorei. The latter have no such life-tied addiction.

… If you are talking about the High Elves from the Allerian stronghold, no, they did not come when Kael’thas did, but when Alleria followed the Alliance forces led by Turalyon and others to Outland at the end of the Second War. That was long before Kael’thas joined Illidan there with his Blood Elves followers.

It could have if they continue to relied on fel magic. Just look at the Felblood elves. They consumed alot of fel and their skin changed to completely red or purple and got horns aswell in the Sunwell Dungeon and Raid. If they continued (Even if it taken alot longer time than Felblood elves) They also would have become fully redskin and their eyes glowed even more green. But that didn’t happen thanks to Velen who reignited the Sunwell. Strange the blood elves never thanked him for that.

I think there was some balance involved in that, though. Feed regularly, you won’t morph into a demon-esque creature. Overindulge yourself and that is exactly what will happen.

But the lore is vague about this.