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Iâve read people here who abuse the report-function to kick premade-leaders out. That is abusing the automatic report function of the game. Especially when they know (what this GM has answered) that queue-syncing is no reason for a ban. Reporting things over and over again which are known to be not real reasons CAN result in a ban for the reporters. I think we are here in a grey area again, because you are right, that blizzard should see how pissed players are about the situation. Trying to abuse the report function for automatic bans on the other hand, is actually against ToS:
As for penalizing false reporters. Players are encouraged to report behavior they think violates the rules. If they are not correct, then the GM wonât apply a penalty. However, coordinated mass flagging to disrupt the game and target someone can get those players suspended. Blizz does not like abuse of the reporting system. That can be hard to prove though unless they do it on a stream or something.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/is-there-a-penalty-for-false-reporting-players/1521220/21
From the playerâs POV, we did the best we could to get a clear answer to this very specific question. A GM is the person enforcing the rules in question and the only one we can ask and MUST answer us. (I tried @-tagging Devs on twitter, but no response).
If there was only the slightest possibility of getting banned for queue-syncing, the GM would have said that (since the GM is the one executing that ban).
Time changed and then that gm has no clue at all how bgs are these days. They should put then into battleground and see for themself how bad it become.
And then they could if they would bother change rules easy.
Ive heard some syncers do the exact same thing when they dont like someone. Should all those syncers also get banned for it?
But you are also aware that people are allowed to report if they believe what the other person is doing is against the rules right?
A GM can do alot of things, but they are not always right.
Did you ask the GM if its against the rules to que up as a raid in epic bgs? If that would fall under the âUnfair advantageâ option?
Que up as several groups is, depending how you read the rule, not against it.
But you are effectively queâing up as a raid. Not as parties. Raid.
Thats something I already argued about their ideology before and reason why they removed the ability to que up as a raid in Ashran.
So whether you like it or not, a normal response from a GM to your question is still not a full real statement about the current issue when all it does is contradict what they have said before.
yes
literally what I linked there:
Ok, at this point this is just copiumâŠ^^
If you want to look at it as copium you are free to do that.
It wont change the point where blizz have stated things which they never did anything about either.
Theres several cases on win-trading happening, even with quite clear evidence and all they still have not touched quite some ppl who are involved with it.
So I am sorry if I dont take what a GM says to your answer which you screenshotted to show on the forum as an actual clear official statement from blizz with their ideology behind it.
It makes no sense that you allow q-syncing when you cant even que up as a raid into bgs. Since that is what q-syncers are doing.
So they should either get rid of q-syncers or allow ppl to que up as a raid into bgs.
Yes. But you also do not know if those people are reporting because they believe they are in the right.
There a few ppl on the forum who believes they are in the right to report and they do not believe they are doing it wrongly.
Just because you screenshot something that might not change what they feel to be right.
Maliciously reporting just to do it is never right though, just to be clear.
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The last 10 encounters I had with a GM, the outcome was like 7 out of 10 that particular GM had no clue what he/she was talking about, or was just plain wrong and I had to tell him/her what is actually true or not and and do his/her job.
So there is that, canÂŽt trust or believe anything what those âGMsâ say to you nowadays.
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make 10 tickets, most likely out of those 10 maybe 7, if you are lucky, will copy paste you the same thing over and over again which they do all the time, gms dont care at all. I play NA myself, and people that type here about the ââmass epic sync ban on NAââ think they know everything based on forums & reddit 
so about your last point, i was mass reported by a prem with his/her grps and every 5 seconds i had the afk debuff, i couldnt rly go for objectives cuz i had to be in pvp combat every 5s. I did make a ticket and they told me they understand the frustration, however since my account hasnt been banned due to their reports, no action will be taken.
This is why i dont comment in the pvp section anymore regarding prems and their mass reports, noone cares and i stopped caring ill be doing m+ next xpac like i did back in SL
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How to twist what you would like the GM to write and what he actually responded.
What he clearly stated was nothing new:
"Please be aware that queuing together or organizing a group queue is not a violation of our terms of service."
He confirms only that itâs ok to group up together and organise a group. Thatâs not new. 2-5 man groups were always allowed to group together and be organised.
Not with a single word does he write anything about âSyncâingâ.
He dodges elegantly to answer about queue syncâing.
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So, to that clear question, he would answer something we all known since day 1?
Yeah, he might failed to give a clear answer, maybe dodging on purpose for political reason, still:
If I ask a GM if botting to generate Gold was ok, I doubt he would answer me some random bullsh1t. He would clearly answer âno, it is not allowed and result in a ban because of cheatingâ
I believe he would be very clear about botting, because blizzard has a very clear policy about that. However about syncâing itâs not really written anywhere thatâs itâs allowd âŠor forbidden, so he probably just replied the best he could, hence his answer.
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Exactly.
This whole thread is exactly about that: Blizzard is not banning people who queue-sync, contrary to the beliefs or wishes expressed by some people in this forum.
Blizz just donât care. Whatâs wrong with people expressing wishes cheating premades get banned? People like you running around in random gamemodes with 90% and higher winrates is that healthy for the game? No people just quit. Iâm just curious wich game mode you going to turn into a mindless farm next after EBG has died? Just because poolboy is too lazy to clean up the floating turd in water, doesnât mean floating turds in water are okay. sums up your argument. But yes your right. Thereâs nothing that players can do against this pathetic behaviour besides quitting so congratz.
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When they tell people that would be the truth, so that these people mass-report other players who might get an automatic ban because of that, although GM doesnât confirm that queue-syncing is a reason for a ban. That whatâs is wrong with that 
This thread was opened for clarification foremost.
Yepp, that sums up WoW PvP really well. Same with gearing, random noobs/afk, class imbalance, queue imbalance, faction imbalance, boosters for real money, people who play 24/7 and know every buff/exploit, cheaters, etc. etc. There is even a mage in these forums boasting with his exploits, trying to get a youtube career around that⊠Players do many legal/illegal things to get an advantage to reach their goals in this game, which fck up other playersâ interests. But no one ever gave a damn about that, and if you play WoW you know most of this stuff was always here and will always be in some form or another 
So people expressing they want cheating premades banned = bad
But cheating a random gamemode with premades is okay because thereâs also a ton of other bad things players do.
The mental gymnastics lmao I just canât 
I got massreported in Bgâs too by certain premade leaders and their simp followers.
No difference. Guess you just have to deal with it the same as we have to deal with all the premade bs.
Other people do bad things so I can do bad things too. Great logic. You list all those bad things as if itâs some sort of gotcha but I look at those things and think âthatâs messed up, hope blizz fix itâ You look at all those bad things and are like âNICE!! time to add more bad things to the list! if they can do it so can Iâ
Lastly about the mage with his âexploitsâ
Random bg mode means random players so every once in a while a player sweating with engineering toys etc is no issue at all. itâs not even exploit comparable with queu syncing to roflstomp hundreds of randoms each day
I agree with that It is both stupid and wrong
You should work on your English expression skills though, most other stuff you write is hard or impossible to understand
No, itâs actually really easy to understand. Pretty sure anyone with more than 3 brain cells can understand everything I said. Iâm pretty sure you understood everything without issues. Youâre just being petty because reasons. maybe we can talk further in Dutch, German or French? Or maybe could just be mature? Anyways my sincere apologies for not being absolutely prefect in my third language.
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Random BG means random map. Just to make it clear you can play either random or specific map.
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