Please note I do not have access to Beta so I am speaking about my testing done in pre patch without Azzerite
Stats are going to be tricky at the start as they are mostly determined by the group composition. As we progress further they can be split
If your group consists mainly of range DPS and know how to avoid damage than having crit and haste is good as you need HS to crit for Infusion of Light Procs and haste to cast faster.
If your group consists mainly of range DPS and they do not know how to avoid damage than Master and Haste is better. Bigger heals for ranged with Mastery and faster casting time with Haste. Crit and Mastery if the tanks are either DK or DH as they require less spot healing.
If your group consists mainly of melee DPS Haste is a must. Crit is the best next thing.
For a melee build I think I would go Crit and Versa. Crit of more procs and Versa to be more defensive. Haste is very good but will get you out of mana fast.
Again these can change, with class, covenants and conduit changes.
I think Blizzard intention for Paladin is to have them stay between the tank and the ranged dps.
At Melee to drop Consecration and use CS. When CS is on cooldown move back to heal ranged DPS after using Bestow Faith on tank. Beacon of Virtue will be the main ability that dictates when to get in melee or in the middel. When BOV is available it is safe to go in middle as healing beacons (ranged DPS) will generate holy power.
Holy power to be used on tank.
t is difficult to explain it with words though. In my mind it makes more sense lol
Doing a “ranged build” as Hpal is just one of the most idiotic suggestions or ideas I can imagine…
Like are you just not gonna cast Consecration, Crusader Strike and Shield of the Righteous? What’s the next idea? Not gonna cast Beacon of Light cuz you dont like the animation??
Each and everyone has the right to play what he/she enjoys. it might not be optimal but if it they are enjoying it; why not. At the moment, I agree, melee is the way to go.
It could also be that he wants to PVP. Being in melee will be difficult in arenas as Paladins do not have the mobility to run away when being focused. Thus staying in range allow him to use pillars etc.
if he isnt in content that needs the damage then why dose it matter, let him play how he wants to play, 99% of the people who play this game don’t play anywhere near the level where these things become important. the “meta” is often focused on as the only way to play the class but realistically if you arn’t in the top 1% of players then the “meta” is optional. if you dont like it dont group with him.
he asked about the viability of an off meta spec and we have discussed it. all the while pointing out its short comings, all you can do is give people information. it is there choice what they do with it.
at the same time you are entitled to your opinion and it is valid in the context of certain content, but i don’t think your input here has been in the spirit of the discussion. it will be up to him to decide if he wants to pop into melee to use those abilities, as we have already covered above. and at no point did he mention animations. there is no need to be facetious
Yes, and I said that the idea was idiotic and therefore not viable.
I am not being facetious. I genuinely think that chosing not to cast X/Y/Z spell or alterning you playstyle because “I dont like Crusader Strike” is utterly stupid and worthy of nothing more than total ridicule.
Yes it’s possible but don’t expect to be doing anything high level.
Blizzard have turned this class into some weird melee (aka disadvantaged) non aoe capable (again another disadvantage) healer with a mastery that requires us to be CLOSE to those we are healing (which means we won’t be healing our ranged friends very well anymore due to us being melee now)
It’s so so so so so bad. I want to reroll but I am loathe to be a week+ behind.
I honestly, genuinely don’t understanding Blizzards thinking on the new Holy Paladin design. It’s woeful to play especially in PVP. Why do I have to run up to people to heal and also attack enemies to generate Holy Power? Seriously what the **** is that playstyle. What the hell is going on. It’s awful.
