It is not the +healing difference I am talking about. Most of the +Healing comes from gear anyway.
I am talking about faster heals and better mana regen or lower mana costs, which gives you a much better chance to save you when sheet hits the fan.
But of cause you are so pro this never happens in your instances
No one is saying that.
The claim was that dps specced healers are just as good as healing specced healers. I disagree with that statement. But if you read up you will also see I agree that any healer class regardless of spec can heal dungeons below 60.
How do I risk wiping by not having dedicated healer spec? Classic dungeons are so easy that you can clear them with eyes closed. Or are you one of those classic andys who won’t step into a dungeon without 3 world buffs, 5 elixirs and at least 4 levels above the last boss?
If somebody overpulls its group effort. None of those deaths in highlights happened because healer didnt have 10% more heals.
I arrived to heal Uldaman as ret pala, 2 dps players started to yell, wth we wont do dung if you wont go holy.
At the end we finished dungeon 0 problems and 1 of them said , its good to have 3 in 1 oftank,dps and heal in group
Peasants
Read the thread maybe? It is not the 10% healing extra which you came up with twice now.
A non-specced healer have longer cast times on heals and much lower mana efficiency and will run out of mana sooner than a specced healer. So when blind guys (like you) pull an extra pack there’s a much better chance surviving with a specced healer than a dps-specced healer.
Pala has the same cast times, priest has only little shorter cast times on heal and greater heal which doesnt matter in the long run, mana efficiency at this level is insignificant. Give me a clear example please where some group wiped because healer lacked mana for one additional heal.
You can Google the HC Dungeons death clips if you like to. Maybe they did closed their eyes and didn’t saw patrols coming, their healer was still drinking, or that boss needs clearing of area around him. Well if you had feral as a healer in those clutch situations consider your party done and prepare to visit Valley of trials again.
You are the one who should provide proof, not me. Show me exactly the clip with timestamp from highlights where you claim that the team wiped only because healer wasn’t in healing spec.
It all depends on so many variables. So there is no clear statement to make.
Go as level 15 into WC, Tank level 18, you will have manaprobs if the others are also around that level, heck even the everliving will most probably kill you with a lucky crit.
So level has much more influence than skilling in the first place.
On the other hand there are and will be situation where skilling into healing will define group whipe or save.
So stop arguing on such a childish base and face the facts: There are situations where each of you is right.
What really decides a whipe or close situation are all those players who dont know how to play their class no matter what they skill. (for example hunter not slowing elite that are on low hp and run into next group for additional pull)
I said what are my red flags and one of those I mentioned was:
The you intervened saying:
So it is up to you show footage of anyone with their eyes closed healing in dps spec in HC Dungeon without anyone dying, preferably on +0…+3 party level of mobs level, when healing is actually required at all.
Don’t try to pull “no U” at me. It is clear that you are unable to provide any data to back up your claims that non healer specced healer leads to death of party where spec would have mattered.
random people /w me because I am a class that can heal/tank asking me to heal/tank without knowing anything about my capabilities, talents or gear ! my gear is questionable, with limited bag spec not allowing me to own a healing set either!
stop sending me random /w asking me to tank or heal your dungeons!! you people must be mad !
I was even considering rolling a druid and playing balance until level 20 and never completing bear form just for extra challenge (probably crazy) to see if its possible to level druid without bear solo
I’m pretty sure it’s more than possible, especially in the open world where you can take full advantage of Roots - just more tiresome and you’d have to drink more. You’d get decent weapon upgrades for those levels as well - which would be all the more important since you wouldn’t have Bear Form.
And going Balance for the first few levels would not be bad, since you’d get access to Nature’s Grasp, shorter Wrath casts (if you didn’t spec in improved NG), plus 10% more physical damage and, at 20, Omen of Clarity.
Maybe you could even go Resto in order to have Furor ready for when you get Cat Form, and Nature’s Focus could be a lifesaver if you need to heal (EDIT: If you were gonna respec to Feral at 20 for Feline Swiftness it would make more sense to spec Imp MotW for the small but immediate benefit).