Remove Eye of the Jailer in The Maw

[Sadnezz-noggenfogger]

Take a look at rescue 20 souls.

Is it FUN to break and wait 20 times for a soulrock and collect a soul?

No.

Is it fun to get the Jailer eye level 3 after doing it despite having like 10 more quests in the zone?

No.

Is it fun to be forced to wait a whole day to do something you could have done all together in the earlier expansions?

No.

Is timegating everything fun?

No.

Could Blizzard have made the Maw into a Tanaan jungle-kind of zone where you could use mounts but had to look out for danger in that zone like falling meteors, assassins in the shadows and shadowy figures coming at you and strangling you giving you 10 seconds to kill it before it kills you, the more out in the zone you are, the more dangerous it becomes but youll find chests for rep and so on making it fun to explore?

Yes.

Then why not make it like this?

Gotta give the bosses extra money.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

The worst part with the souls quest is that they actually fixed it to make it even slower. Plus it gives you jailer rating on the eye.

[Shopkeeper-aggramar (Shopkeeper)]

Yup, this weekend we went into the maw (Fae quest led us there) and thought of giving it another go. So get 20 fricking souls (slowly), to end up with level 3 only being able to do one more quest comfortably or without gaming the system (because less powerful alts).

We got reminded how daft this design is with stopping us from spending time on content. Said at the time: let’s do the rest tomorrow… tomorrow came and the interest wasn’t there. We also can’t play together every day, so this idea of doing it multiple days in the week… doesn’t work (nor would I call it fun).

It’s not a fear of missing out that is in place, its eventually not really giving a damn about certain content and that might even turn one away from the game with time.

Now if 9.1 was ready 2/3 months later, one could argue for the maw being ‘dreadful’ because you’d see progression… but half a year and more of this eye of the jailer nonsense… nope.

[Weffi-kilrogg]

wonder actulay how many got the mount, realy seldom se anyone on a mount in the maw for some reason, most seem to just run arround.

[Namr-chamber-of-aspects]

@Vektron-auchindoun

Remove it? As in…some people couldnt get enough of the Maw?

I personally think the biggest issue with the Maw aside from the Eye mechanic is that there’s really not much to do there. The achievements only require you to kill all the bosses, rares and events once, and the toys have a solid drop rate (fortunately). Outside of that, what’s the point of going there after one’s maxed out the Ve’nari reputation? Farming sockets and conduit upgrades? I don’t think most players even remotely care about something like that.

The zone had potential, but as usual that potential was wasted.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

It will be interesting to see if 9.1 makes more people use the Maw with the new area and having the use of any mount.

My only reason for doing Twisting Corridors was to get the mount for the Maw and it works on the introduction quest on alts too. Making it faster.

[Elias-golemagg]

@Sadnezz-noggenfogger

Then why not make it like this?

Becouse casuals would complain that game is too hard.

[Vektron-auchindoun (Vektron)]

One thing about the Maw/Thorghast that I didnt see being answered was - how come we wouldnt be getting anima there (and lots of it)? Isnt it the place where much of it went?

[Gorbathust-draenor]

I mean, to those who are advocating for the removal of the the eye of the jailer, have you guys read the 9.1 key notes?

If you got the time to come complain in the game’s forums, you got the time to zap by wowhead or mmo champion and have a quick read.

[Namr-chamber-of-aspects]

It’s likely because if they did indeed give lucrative amounts of anima people would feel forced to grind the Maw and Torghast in order to get any serious amount of anima.

[Shopkeeper-aggramar (Shopkeeper)]

Yes, you would notice the mention of 9.1 being too far off with having to live with this crappy system.

[Gorbathust-draenor]

Just got to deal with it. This game has a lot of major issues, the daily pseudo GTA star system, isn’t the most important one. The entire Maw/stygia/thorgast relationship is wrong to begin with. It’s too big of a problem to be fixed in a .5 type patch.

This will be dealt with in 9.1, and it’s going to suck until then. Removing the eye now, or making the final stage less deadly, would barely solve anything as the content itself is terrible. I’m not even sure what people want to actually do in the Maw! Stygia is basically already dead unless you’re a min-maxer and want to push keys over 15 and mythic raiding.

[Shopkeeper-aggramar (Shopkeeper)]

It could be a hotfix, as simple as tweaking the numbers. Not that I expected them ever to do it (because slow and stubborn), but it should be expressed that 9.1 comes too late (even with nothing being done about it).

You were after all going on about people not being aware with its removal in 9.1… I’d say quite a few know and voiced that.

And yeah the entire deck of systems of Shadowlands have problems… and I highly doubt they are able to fix half of them in 9.1 so we’ll see how SL turns out in the end. My guess: a promising start that fell apart or maybe even gets abandoned pre-maturely. I’d love to be wrong on both those guesses.

[Nivada-tarren-mill]

I bet you can buy boost for sockets in directly by paying someone to help you trough the maw and get the most optimal stygia route

[Dzonathan-silvermoon]

Yup.

This is what happens when gold generation goes out of control.
Gold Sellers have become so efficient at generating gold that they dont need to hack accounts and clean the account from all valuables like they did in WotLK.

A lowly TESCO blue collar from UK earns about £10/h.
£10 gets you 200k if you know where to look.
Someone who fails at Torghast would rather go do 2 hours overtime/week and cover his Soul Ash grind for his non-tank main.

Time to boost at 100k/wing to finance my weekly Denthrius heroics.