Your view point is very narrow.
The world has shifted, and the player base has aged (well some have).
The vast majority of players have little free time, work, family, real life.
A large amount of people don’t want to group for various reasons, me personally?
I cant stand the average wow player. I don’t want to spend time forming a group either.
I want to log in, click a queue button and have a chance of a fair fight.
Nothing wrong with my not wanting to form or be part of a community group been there done that drama for 18 years thanks no thanks.
Nothing wrong with you wanting to group either, I’m fine you go ahead have fun.
However no one can deny (honestly) even a 2 man group can have a HUGE effect on a random BG.
So the simple solution is? Grouped players face only grouped players. Problem solved, there is no defence or reason to say no to this without proving bias to having an advantage.
Wanting an advantage is natural human behaviour, and people use all sorts of mental gymnastics to achieve in their mind they are just and right even owed this advantage, however this is a game, and the playing field should be level.
I think some blame goes to the undergeared person as well. Yes, you have to gear somewhere, but Epic BGs are more suited for this and you can get some of the WPvP gear before entering BGs. Entering a normal BG and being a free kill expecting a carry is inconsiderate.
I sometimes “ragequit” too. Mostly if the enemy team has too many fotm Warriors and the BG is just unpleasant to play and looks like it will last a long time. Fotming is Imo a much bigger annoyance in the game than premades.
So the simple solution is? Grouped players face only grouped players. Problem solved , there is no defence or reason to say no to this without proving bias to having an advantage.
But they want to shoot fish in a barrel not fighting someone on equal footing.
Pretty sure everyone in our community doesn’t mind that, it’s funnier for us when there are challenging enemies Currently, this is already soft-implemented (groups are more likely to face each other).
The question is how Blizzard would implement a hard separation of those queues and how bad it results for queue times (it would be worse for solo players, as it would for up-to-5-man groups).
It is up to Blizzard to implement what they consider right regarding matchmaking. Premade groups are one factor. But if that wouldn’t be anymore, then SOME OF YOU players with a loser mentality would find another thing to complain about. If Blizzard put players with 120k hp against players with 420k hp… well, what do you expect? And if it is not gearing, then it is FOTM-classes, then it is role-balance, then it is BG-maps, then it is the Weather, then it is…
Naaaa, most of us could queue solo and would still easily own you, barrel-fishes
(see screenshots above)
I think it’s fun that none of you has the basic ability to post on a forums without trying to trigger people.
Says a lot about the mindset you’re running and how you see your fellow players.
What is that loser mentality you talk about? The fact that some people want to enjoy a game mode that is designed about queing solo are queing it infact solo and not with their “my friend boosted me to HotA or I paid someone to get HotA” group.
Additionally I don’t see your “prophecy” come true, because the number of people playing solo is way higher than people who queue with a group. That’s the same false impression pvp twinks had when they said “separate queues don’t hurt us, there are tons of twinks that just play for the good fights” and when separate queues came the whole scene died in less than 4 weeks.
So would you.
btw. can we have the whole screenshot from your “not grouped” stats - especially with the healing of your pocket healer?
And to see that you are German is even more funny.
It usually takes me 1 minute to form a group. I notify through the chat and a lot of people start whispering to me.
And that’s why I dont spend my time going into BG with people who don’t take anything seriously. I have limited gaming hours and I want to have fun, not get frustrated by losing to incompetent people that play worse than a “comp stomp” bot, which is why I usually go premade.
Do you have some kind of prejudice against Germans and Austrians as well?
The funniest thing is that you try to be morally superior and you come now with this.
I would recommend it to you without a doubt, but it would be weird to see you in premade when for so long you have belonged to the anti-premade crusade. but hey, you can always admit your mistake and rectify.
This has been done for most of WoW history now^^ Almost every Epic BG Leader queues like that: Some, like me, went with ~10 people, some like oreluk (I think?), or other russian leaders really go with 40 people.
Regarding getting banned: As long as you don’t use an addon that automatically accepts and declines queues for you (that is restricted by the addon API nowadays), you have nothing to fear.
But, of course, you are free to not take part in such big premades for any other reason
Better you look for communities for non-epic BGs for 5-man groups. As far as I remember those leaders you mentioned do almost only epic BGs with those communities.
I better pass i got so much going on in wow atm with achivs and stuff + i am mostly in que for solo shuffle when i do bgs means i can’t be in any group.
Can you stop reading selectively? The first quote is about “Classic”, the second one is about Blizzards general stance about “premades” queing into BG. Has nothing to do with Classic WoW.
Should’ve understand this with the “we always advise people to not use any type of add-on designed to circumvent or bend our balancing safeguards”
Circumventing those “balancing safeguards” (here: 5 man queue, not 10,15,20,40 man queue) is a voice chat option.
It’s annoying to have to repeat a easy understandable sentence every month because you either forgot or ignored the fact again and again.
No wonder you need a premade, I bet you forgot your keybinds within a day.
There is no selective reading, it’s just not listed in what you link. Your second quote is not what you linked, so you might want to link the source. The link you shared is specifically posted in the “Wow Classic General Discussion” section, so it doesn’t matter for retail at all.
You are repeating the same false information every time, and I will call you out for doing this whenever I see you do this.
Even if that was said (still waiting for a source), no addon required so what’s your argument now?
How cute that you think I care about being good or bad in PvP I’m probably the worst PvPer in existence and am enjoying my free wins.
Currently, this is already soft-implemented (groups are more likely to face each other).
