sylvanas drops daggers what make u do more dmage then bow anyway
it is very strong, in m+ atleast. depending on pulls and how good u are to use it as well. 4-8% of my total dmg it crits for over 20k, so for BM its very strong.
And the sad part i only got the HC bow… so i dont dare to imagine how much the mythic bow does… its just op… and the mythic bow is 259 ilvl. i can imagine it does up to 12% dmg since the dmg effect scale with bow itself and ur other gear!
And make the genocidal b*** walk the plank with her legs tied at the bottom with a rock.
Yes if you can get the aoe to hit the mobs it can be good.
However, it is not that amazing.
dark-rangers-quiver the cloak is worth close to the same.
Is the bow good yes it is but it is not op.
You can add about 6-8ilvls for the ability and you have what the ability is worth.
The aoe hit has a very short range (i might be wrong but if memory serves it was nerfed from 10 to 5yards in the PTR) It is good but you are not going to hit everything even if you have a massive amounts of mobs stacked.
not true at all. i got both on my horde toon bow/back. the bow is far better. as it hits way harder and is not aoe caped. but the back is nice to have, its like 60-120 overall dps for my hunter at least, in m+… if i remember correctly back is like 1-2% of my overall. on my horde toon. that you compare them and state that back is just as good, i need to question what content or what lvl keys in m+ you do. i can only imagine 1 scenario where back is beter, and that is if u do so low keys that trash mobs die before u can cast thee arrow, in this case ye back is better.
You really should read what people say.
No i did not say it was the same, i said close to the same 2% dps and 4% dps is close they are not the same.
some that does 1-2% at its best vs 4-8%. not even close in my eyes. beside we need to take the silence effect into equation as well. the bow is simpley more than 10 times better than the back.
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.
The back isnt even 2% DPS, its DPS contribution is pretty much a non-factor, almost to the point thats its a meme item more than anything.
The Bow is decent, the wailing arrow ability makes the HC version better than a 252 bow. Hardly gamebreaking in any way though.
That is fine you can believe what you want it is not like i care about the difference specifically between those 2 as it was an example.
I should have used a better one as there is several to choose from.
That is good but again Range is a factor and if you use it for that you will drop the amount of uses and your numbers will no longer be the case.
You are overestimating how strong the bow is.
Because you are making assumptions that does not reflect reality.
If it was OP you would see far more hunters in the MDI as an example, where they could use the mythic version.
And i stress this is an EXAMPLE
As i need to do this for you after seeing how you react.
And that is my point.
While sivaria here is under the impression it is gamebreaking level of power at mythic quality.
In fact the weapon ilvl has no impact on the damage the ability does (indirectly it does because of extra Agiliy meaning more attack power.)
it is as it has more stats!. and in what useless world do u livee in when u dont take the whole aspect of the bow. the bow is OP. the ability is op every thing about it is op.
it has higher lvl than any other bow atm, it has a op abillity and u only get it from a last boss in a raid, with pretty bad drop chanse.
THE BOW IS EXTREMLY OP FOR ATLEAST BM HUNTER IN M+. and if u read my first post i said ffor BM. for MMM maybe thatt clunky spec that neeeds 2000 millionn mastery to work it aainnt good, but for BM hunter that bow is peerless and op and ugly and annoying. i got it on two hunters, but sadlly just hc garb bow, if i had mythic bow its instant several m+ keyes higher for free. with 100% same gameplay, this bs gamee were only gear matters at a certain point is disgusting.
First you need to read what is being said to you this is the second time you completely fail in doing that.
But i will explain you see it does not matter if you have the normal mode bow or the mythic bow what the bow does is give you access to the ability Wailing Arrow.
That ability does not care what version of the bow you have.
This is the tooltip of the ability you get when you get the bow.
“Fire an enchanted arrow, dealing (277.5% of Attack power) Shadow damage to your target and an additional (112.5% of Attack power) Shadow damage to all enemies within 8 yds of your target. Targets struck by a Wailing Arrow are silenced for 5 sec.”
As you can see in the math here this does not care what weapon dps or weapon damage you do or anything like that it only cares about what attack power you have.
If you have 10 000Attack Power that is what it cares about not what damage the bow does or what the dps of the bow is.
Of course the higher bow ilvl will make you the player do a higher total dps number in the damage meter but that has nothing to do with the ability.
Again understand what you are reading or ask if you do not understand.
In this case the problem here is that you do not seem to understand that the ability is not tied to the item level of the weapon.
If a team build pulls around the bow it is OP there is no ifs and buts about it but how many teams run BM hunter atm in MDI ?
How would you build around the bow?
And you do understand that Sivaria is one of the top rated hunters in the world right ? so i think he knows a good deal about what they are saying.
And he did it by pugging no fixed team.
He clearly do not understand how the bow works.
how high you are ranked does not mean you actually understand what you are talking about.
He does not understand the fact that the bow only give you access to the Ability and that the ability does not care what ilvl weapon you have.
other then 1 thing the agility on the weapon.
How high ranked he is, is 100% irrelevant.
so in this troll world, he assume that if u get mythc sylv bow to run aroud without any other gear, again what kind of brain do u got?. do u think ppl run around without armor when they get the bow, u are a good troll, baited me to respond on such useless matter
The bow is extremly OP in the Right hands. Period.
You are ridiculous just wow.
ofc it is bis for hunters it is so obvious you would be very amazingly stupid if you did not know that.
But i was talking about the ability not the bow.
And you said that the ABILITY Wailing Arrow does MORE DAMAGE on the MYTHIC version of the BOW than the Heroic version.
There is where you are literally saying the ability scales with ilvl.
And you are simply wrong in what you are saying here, Period.
It scales with your attack power nothing else.
Also the reason it is so much better on BM is because the damage is increased by bestial wrath
IT DOES DUE TO MORE STATS. it scales with AGI AND VERSA. so if u got the bow, u most likley get rest of te 259 gear with also more stats. its night and day.
Wrong
The 3 different bows have very big stats difference also the shadow damage is different between each one this i have tested as i have normal version agiasnt my friends heroic .
No it is not he needs to know his class inside and out you are very dismissive over something you really do not know.
Sivs bow
Sivaria - Character (worldofwarcraft.com)
My bow
Kelséy - Character (worldofwarcraft.com)
Stats are massive difference
And i have NOT DISAGREED that better gear makes it stronger it is LITERALLY in the tooltip