Remove void form from shadow priests

Shadowbolt = Mind blast

Unstable affliction = vamp touch

Corruption = shadow word pain

:man_shrugging: I guess i just dont see it

Just remove shadow priests to be honest, no one seems to want them for anything.

Three abilities make a class…?

Sinister Strike = Raptor Strike
Stealth = Camouflage
Kidney shot = Intimidation

Rogues and Surv Hunters are the same thing confirmed.

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No but i cba writing a whole list of how almost every abillity replicates from eachother

Not really the same thing compared to mine

Camoflage has more restrictions & works differntly and only lasts 1 min

Only one you got right

Anyways im leaving this thread, this is by far one of the stupidest things i’ve seen, so im just gonna … yeee …

They should add shadowform glyphs - one to bring old one back, one to make you lighter, one to have more tentacles and so on. Glyph-it like mages glyph their water elemental or shaman their ghost wolves… raptors… or whatever they run around as !

OPTIONS and CUSTOMISATION for everyone - even priests !

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You could do that with a lot of classes.

Sort of is though? Only difference is that Rogues have a combo point system but that doesn’t change the ability itself much.

Unstable affliction doesn’t heal, Vampiric touch does. Unstable can be stacked, Vampiric can not.

Your point?

Sinister strike generating combo points makes it different from Raptor Strike and yet, Kidney shot costing combo points does not make it different than Intimidation?

Byeee~

They should add Glyphs for many things. I could think up 15 unique warrior glyphs from the top of my head that’d be fun to have but we don’t have for… well, idk why we don’t have them. We just don’t.

Honestly I think Glyphs are sort of a forgotten system they made and just… abandoned.

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DKs and mages have wide range of visual changes for their pets, or abilities. I run around with weirdest looking “ghoul” and my ‘army’ has whole load of funny looking minions. And I love it. They make my death knight more different from one another. Some of my dks have different ghouls, standard ghouls, or different coloured spell X etc. All of them have their own personality.

And I have read priests comments about void/shadowforms - not just now in this thread, but also in past and there’s not one 100% agreement, people like this and that. Glyphs would be perfect solution.

My own personal favourite was when my priest looked lighter, almost ‘normal’ - i do not remember however which expansion that ‘lighter shadowform’ look is from. I kind of like the tentacles coming out, but I do not like looking like on black matter all the time. And like wise each shadow priest player has their favourite tint and edition of the shadowy form. I have never mained one, so my opinion probably matters little here, but … really glyphs or something would be perfect fix for situations like these.

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I think the OP is making the point about the mechanics of Voidform - not the aesthetics.

I agree with them because - whilst on paper it is cool and I can buy into the void element of it, fine, but the mechanic is a needless restriction on our damage. And suffers exceptionally from the Azerite traits. It’s not game-breaking, but it is a thing.

Where’s Ellipsis when you need them? They make a great point about Mythic Ny’zoth with the on-demand damage that Shadow just doesn’t have - but for the rest of us this trickles down into every level of content - this is why Mythic+ is less than great - not totally un-doable, but not in any way optimal.

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Oh yeah, remain silent about those who keep ruining game that you played for years, and still playing?

Whats wrong at being angry?

There’s still hope →

The only disappointing thing in SL is Shadow Priests. We still have insanity.

Oh well glad I can still play disc.

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Shadow Priest should play as Warlock? No~ Its Warlock that should play with Void Form. Activision literally removed Black Demon form from Demonology Warlock and gave it to Priest as Void Form for some stupid reason.

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I was disappointed that shadow priest isn’t going back to shadow orbs. I hated the redesign in Legion and was desperately hoping that it would be changed back. I find the insanity version really difficult and stressful to play - just constantly staring at my action bar to see what’s off cooldown and desperately trying to hit as many buttons as possible. I can see that others might find this fun and challenging but to me personally (and clearly to some others too) it’s not. It would be interesting to know whether the pro- and anti-insanity people are the majority, but I guess we’ll never be able to gather that data!

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I have the feeling that Blizzard does exactly what the players hate on purpose since the last couple of expansions. Otherwhise, it cant be explained that they produce with much of retardness in a single game.

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No, Shadow priest had Shadowform and that was good enough.

Then Legion came and they thought ‘‘How can we ruin Shadow priests? Lets go with a new form! VOID FORM!’’ Which is why I don’t even try to enjoy Shadow priests anymore, I just cant.

I miss the Cata/MoP/WoD versions of Shadow Priest, not this abomination.

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One of the problems with the voidform system is how how badly the downtime between the voidforms impact the performance of the class.

“Oh you are not in void form during that important pack in M+? Too bad”

I would rather the insanity bar to be used like the Boomkin bar for some special attacks.

Right now the base spriest is in “bellow average” state while in void form they are in a short “super state”. This evens out on raid bosses but it is clunky on shorter encounters
The Demon hunter and all the other classes in comparison are always already on their “average state” without being transformed.

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Voidform should have been reworked into a talent. Keeping shadow and void separated for priests

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I have some tinfoil hats for sale, interested? It also might come as a shock to you that not everyone dislikes everything that you do. But hey, please continue with the pathetic insults towards the devs.

TBH remove shadowform. It’s a pointless button you press for damage. Just bake it into all damage already. Mechanically it’s essentially pointless, and only remains for nostalgia.

I don’t get how the idea of all priests using void is more jarring than previous inceptions. So it’s wierd for a tauren priest to invoke the void, but totally fine for them to cast devouring plagues and use vaguely named “shadow orbs”?

I mean what Shadow was was never clear. Warlocks use Shadow, but it’s always been the case that the Shadow warlocks use isn’t necessarily the same stuff that priests use, yet Shadow was just Shadow and it was never explained what exactly it was. The Void connection was to tidy this up.

I get a lot of people might find shoehorning of Void annoying, but I see it as no less annoying than forcing Light on all priests either. Why on earth would a darkspear troll priest who grew up on echo isles invoke the Light? That makes sense but invoking the Void doesn’t? How come?

Mechanically I don’t mind Voidform. A bit more control over entry would be good for unpredicted pulls, and a bit more mechanical nuance in the rotation would be decent. That’s not a Voidform issue however, that’s a SPriest issue.

It’s a concern it’s remaining. But that doesn’t mean it won’t be changing at all.

It’s not a bad idea in concept. It just needs some better execution,

they should just change the name of the spec to Void Priest.
Shadow priest died… im rollin disc in Shadowlands Feelsbad