Not specific, just available to all races of that faction. So all of Horde can be shaman and has a few races that can be pally. Alliance can all be pally and has a few races that can be shaman.
We really do, but sadly Blizzard is either extremely poor and not able to afford investing more money into resourcing or just a greedy money hungry company. Last time Sub rogues got some love was prolly back in Legion lol. Just to name an example
I see, i donât know if i can agree to that though, some class race combos just donât make sense, at least not at the moment, maybe in the future.
Sub rogue actually got downgraded, remember when it used to be the best single target funnel? Black powder is nice though i guess. But if it was too strong why not just nerf it a bit? Why you gotta completely remove an aspect of sub rogue? Like wtf?
I can agree with extending paladin for ally so the balance is the same for both factions regarding the âfaction classâ but other than giving pandaren paladins (thus horde would have 4 paladin choices) it would be limited to allowing additionally KT paladin, gnome and nelf paladin, thus each faction would have 9 of their core class and 4 of the other.
I just canât get behind shamans and paladins for every race in the faction. You destroy the class thematics if you do that. Nothing about the blood elf or nightborne cultures we can play as lends itself to shamanism. Land made the argument as to why a belf shaman twilight NPC does not mean silver moon belf can be shaman.
Itâs bad enough that every race can be monks (except worgen and goblin oddly) which really destroys the class thematic already, letâs not do it for shaman and paladin where the theme of the class is a huge deal. You start giving agents of void the option to play as light wielding warriors and the class label means nothing. Same for giving urbane arcane elves the option to play as spiritual soothsayers whom are most at home under the open skies and in touch with nature.
Blizz was unable to balance racials who gave the factions differences of a few percentages. Imagine how messed up the faction balance would be with whole classes.
Shaman and Paladin would have to be carbon copies with only different spell effects and animations for this to work, which defeats the whole purpose.
âBut it was a thing in vanilla !â Yeah and vanilla was an unbalanced mess where Alliance had a clear competitive advantage in PVE due to Pallies.
Why doesnât Horde get panda shamans?
Dwarves⌠Draenei, hello ? Kul Tiran.
You do know they can already be paladins right?
these are very problematic for many reasons. Undead dont care about nature or the elemants. Void elves dont mix with light, regardless if they have High elf skin or not, Alleria being a good example of that. We all know what happened when she touched the Light-infused sunwell
No.
Why would any Elf become a Shaman. Not even the nature loving Night elves are. It just doesnt match elven society.
sure. why not.
i dont know why people care so much about identity. Paladins and shamans are for both factions now. Its not like Blizzard is going to start deleting Alliance shamans and Horde paladins. That would be problematic.
Its not like Blizzard will start deleting Pandarens, Nightborne and Void elves for so-called âfaction identityâ
It was mainly PvP if I recall. Paladins in classic are outright superior PvP healers due to their bulk, utility (cleanse lololol) even a Ret pala in classic has a metric ton of utility which is not clunky to use and very intuitive.
Shaman however in PvE, amazing. Chain heal is better than anything a paladin has in most situations, shaman totem buff stacking was wild. Also Prot and ret were pretty crap in vanilla outside of niches, whereas elemental shaman were always super good in PvP, very powerful class in the right hands for sure.
It was completely unbalanced because they were not copies at all and it showed. Adding bloodlust in TBC necessitated making them XF as BL is way too good for just one faction to have
Even then horde still lucked out with seal of blood. It made Ret viable in PvE. Thereâs a good reason both factions get it in TBC classic! It was utterly busted compared to seal of vengeance.
Didnât pally have infinite mana by stacking crit though ?
Having faction specific classes was a pain to balance and itâs exactly why they addressed that in TBC.
Yess, give us Gnome Paladins! I would gladly delete all my characters in exchange for one of those.
People should play what they want. I identify myself as a gnome paladin. I even RP gnome paladin on RP server. Its the closest thing to it I can get sniffles
The way things have been going, Iâd almost say just make any race any class. Apparently people in wow donât like choices.
I already donât understand some race + class choices.
Itâs not that people donât like choices friend, people love them, they even love it more when itâs there.
The issue now-a-days is that youâre risking playing a race that is better at being X class rather than Y class in which people will not suggest to play, others for more flavor, I too donât understand Tauren Paladins since theyâre more connected to their Tribal culture.
Other times it just seems that a certain class can be easily benefited for both sides if you remove one, side, then itâll create a unbalance, youâll need to have both sides in equal stances.
If Alliance loses âShamansâ then the Horde must lose a class from their side to the Alliance.
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