Explain how any of this helps the rogue in PvP?
Snd refresh while shaman gain another OP rune (mental dexterity) wich will increase AP and spellpower by 600?
Sure SnD refresh will help against 2k5 instant lava bursts
Quit clutching your pearls over imaginary numbers, Cut to the Chase has better PvE uses for sure but Honor Among Thieves has really strong potential in pvp.
If you donât know how strong Honor among Thieves can be it means you have never played a rogue before.
Oh man, youâre like in every rogue thread ever, always sharing your wisdom. Big fan of us sneaky bois, eh?
Hey there sneakies, I have to agree on the boring rune part, but we still have 4 undiscovered runes, lets look up to that.
Aside from that, Honor among thieves is insanely strong in different situations so for sure a win already. Iâve also seen the rune for the 20% dmg buff while we have 1 Bleed effect on, I guess Rupture builds will see some love as well, not a bad thing.
All in all, we have a different meta every phase, I do not see it as a bad thing at all. A bit of swords, a bit of daggers, now a bit of bleeds perhaps.
No, we will not be as broken as shamans or priests were this phase, but lets stay positive, who knows, we may get things like first version of Exsanguinate to pare with 20% buff or something alike, which was completely broken for PvE.
We will see Shadow Dance pop in this or next phase, mark my words! Too iconic to skip!
Rogue runes are unfun?
Hello???
A rune that helps maintain slice and dice.
A rune that gives you free combo points.
What do you want?
A big red button that says âI WINâ on it?
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Thatâs just like to say that s*x is bad, but you did not done it. First do it to have exp., then come and comment. You have seen nothing yet, but complaining, wtf is wrong with you?
Rogue runes is just fine, and +10 talent points+5 weapon skill of chose, +3 from combat talents (thatâs cap your glancing vs +3 lvl target) will make up, we do not know other runes yet. What is fun or not is subjective. Suggesting you to reroll to something else, you are not suitable for rogue class.
Are you trolling or what?
-mutilate donât requering positioning is only good, but you will position no matter what if you are good rogue, to maximize dmg and hit. So what is the issue?
- backstab deal good dmg, muti is better, extra CP for same energy, clear winer.
- eviscerate will deal a much more dmg if you spec into it and have high crit chance, untill then it it bad. Nothing new.
- I hit the target, common sence is that combo points are on target I hit, huh?
- fun is objective, for you can be something else, for me the opposite.
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its not worth arguing with these people.
They could get a rune they have always dreamed of and still call it not fun and usless.
These people are incapable of actually having fun in games.
They are just here to complain so they can say that blizzard is sh**.
Rogues are fun baseline.
honestly if it isnt a buff to pvp rogues will whine, while being the best class in pvp, actual trolls and apes the whole bunch of em.
Me personally I want some gimmicky fun stuff, like destruct working on people in combat, or reversing their controls for two seconds.
Or Survivorâs Bag of Coins.
Or a rune that basically gives you a glider.
Rune that makes you completely undetectable if youâre standing still for 3 seconds.
I honestly donât want more pew pew, pew pew gets nerfed and buffed without any runes involved. I want silly fun stuff that I had to figure out how to use.
Relax, warriors are still F tier when it comes to fun runes and gameplay. Rogues sit on a comfortable D spot.
That they are, poor souls. Every single day I wake up a little bit happier knowing Iâm not a warrior main.
Look at the datamined shaman runes, even if they got some well deserved nerf coming (which probably doesnât remove them from S tier). They are getting some pretty fancy runes by the looks of it.
Meanwhile look at paladin/rogue and warrior⊠probably more that got horrible runes but those are the ones i can think of right now.
I donât know what dark ritual mages engaged with, but here they are. With a brand new stun.
itÂŽs really op, most of the peoples underestimate it, also many peoples dont know, that this rune/talent can be triggered, by the rogue itself
and cut of the chase is really really good for pve, but also makes rogue easier, and more boring.
we get +5 weapon enchant
we get 2 more ranks of ambush
we have 1 combo point more in the opener
they datamined armor pen Poison for rogue, if this comes live, then gg, so rogue dont even need deadly poison for plate guys anymore.
yeah this guy is annoying, and a max 1.2k arena multi challenger player with 20-100 stats
Guys. Please point your finger at him. and laughs at him, he says âbeingâ the best class in pvp
is he playing wow era? did he even played against a Shaman?
did he saw what mage got?
either itâs a troll, or Rogues are gatekeeping him at 1.2 arena rating
Stop trolling mate⊠Rogue have been trash for the whole of ph2 and will die as a class in ph3.
Envenom uptime yeah thats a good point for poison proccsâŠâŠ but do you even know how often envenom damage misses or is dodged ?!
And the parryrate if you have to face a mob or a player âŠ.
Yes i do have hit and weaponskill gear but still there are a lot of misses etc âŠ
Blizzard should fix this firstâŠ.
That would be much more helpfull.
Trash in PvE? Not as bad as MM and Arcane mage, while being on par with Ferals/SP/Boomie.
Trash in PvP? Like most rogues, the problem sits infront of the monitor, it isnât the class. Literally rogue is in a class of itâs own in PvP as a melee, along with Enhancement, Boomie/SP still cause problems, but so do rogues.
If you want to buff something, buff MM/Feral, they suck in PvE and PvP.
Hate to be the one to break the news mate.
MM, Feral, Arcane are not classes, but specs. Hunter were one of the best dps classes, druid were fantastic healer and good boomy aswell as desirable raidbuff as feral, mages are top DPS.
Rogues dont have any viable choices but to level another class.
As for PvP rogues are only good in a 1v1 situation against unexpecting victims. If you are getting owned by rogues as a pala, its a skill issue for you.