Season of Discovery Class Tuning Incoming - 17 April

Yes, at first I was happy. But then I realized all the agony of choice… What to do, how to live now…

Is this a late april fools?

  • AoW needs to allow us to cast instant cast HL/FoL for free
  • Divine Storm holy damage
  • SoM or Divine Storm should go to a different slot
  • Mutilate nerfed by 20%, no additional damage against poisoned targets and 1 CP per use
  • BtE 100% damage nerf, same energy cost as kidney

Mutilate is too strong, allows rogues to just delete people without using their CDs.

Still favoring a busted class? Shameless honestly.

  • Mental Dex needs nerfing
  • MSW needs nerfing
  • LB shouldnt be usable with NS
  • Riptide healing nerfs, its a 6s instant strong heal, what the heck you doing blizz.

What? WG as balance druid is insanely good and hasn’t been adressed at all in PvP.

Most of the changes adress absolute nothing if the ones from Blizzard go through, and it is a clownfiesta.

Priests can also gladly receive a nerf to healing

  • 30% less healing on Penance
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And Shadowpriest remains the bottom of DPS Meter :slight_smile:

Maybe you should consider buffing the Base Spells, like SWP (which does like 0 dmg, crits on 0 damage remains 0 damage), Mindflay (Which is absolutly useless rn), Mindblast (which crits 1k with bis gear and has cd) etc. Its nice, that we do heal with VE - but its very unsatisfying to do less damage then a hunter pet…

Classic ret main: “buff me to the moon, nerf everyone else to the ground” :joy:

Now that I think about it you have got to be trolling. There’s no way anyone is this delusional. You had me going, not gonna lie. Bravo sir, I’ll give credit where credit is due and your performance has been a stellar one.

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Increase the CD on Dispersion.
Increase the energy cost of Mutilate.
Reduce the damage increase from Lone Wolf.

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If you put SoM or Divine Storm to leg slot, then Exorcist rune which is current damaging skill of the ret paladin will be obsolete.

Just make them all baseline abilities instead. Get rid of runes completely for paladins, just give them everything. Oh and an orbital bombardment that will annihilate every enemy player in a BG on a 10s CD, no mana cost.

Edit: actually remove the 10s CD, don’t want it to be too weak.

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Shamanistic rage untouched? What am I missing?

Incoming comment from some microwave noise thought process dev about alliance have been too strong in PvE for too long because of The Human Spirit.

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Is this ur first time as a Warrior in pvp? Seems so… charging in solo in BGs as a Warrior has never worked and never will. U need support.
I play disc priest with my mate as a Warrior and he sometimes laughs for several minutes nonstop. Because hes having such a blast obliterating everything.
Get a pocket healer and ur experience will change massively.
Warrior isn’t supposed to be OP 1v1 but it’s much stronger than any other class when supported

Battlegrounds

  • Increased health by 100% while in battlegrounds
  • Increased recieved healing by 20% while in battlegrounds.

Can paladins atleast get a bis weapon which isn’t dropping in freaking gnomeregan??? Why do paladins have to depend on a stupid 3 mins cd which increase attack speed. Make it a proc on a seal when seal twisting or something or change the whole system to not depend on it

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This should really have been a nerf to the maximum amount of targets hit by the shield instead of a blanket nerf to the cooldown, that was always the problem with it. Now with this change, I feel like shamans will seriously struggle tanking single bosses due to the immense nerf doled out do the physical damage dealt as well as rockbiter during the phase transition to phase 3.

Or if this is a PvP problem, just smash the damage but vastly up the threat. It’s not a great fix but it cements this rune as a tank rune that will maintain the functionality of it, even though that would be a pretty hamfisted change as well, all things considered.

I guess you guys are really tired of them, huh.

Let us be honest though: Tank Shamans are not overperforming in boss encounter damage - those who claim they do are still living in P2. https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/season-of-discovery-phase-3-dps-rankings-sunken-temple-opening-week-338595#screenshots:338595:2

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Any changes coming to the least played spec according to WCL, (by far) ele shaman?

  • Rolling Thunder is performing very bad. Most of ele shammy are using Overcharge.
  • Mental Dex forcing us to melee weave, which feels very bad in ST since theres a lot of movement on bosses.

Something needs to be changed. It feels very bad playing this spec now.

No one said anything about being OP. And not sure what BG you and your warrior buddy are playing, but every single time when I play AB I get uninstalled at BS by paladins while stunned, even if I have 2-3 healers in the back, is like I am playing a cloth class that gets stunned and then 1 shot, two shot at most if healers get to throw a heal.

Much stronger when supported unless the target also has a healer, blessing of freedom, more stuns, bubbles and insta kills on first CC. You don’t even have to charge in, is enough to try and peel for your healers and casters, you charge at minimum range/distance from them, then 3-4 paladins in bubble focus you down and drop you at first stun.

What you are saying goes under fiction category, that or you are playing alliance.

Anything that doesn’t make me choose between DS and SoM.

Okay, apparently u choose to be a victim. Have fun with ur mindset then :sweat_smile:

Oui exactement ils vont rendre la rune obsolète, après le nerf de voie de la terre et arme Croc-roc qui à été rendu ridicule…
C’est quoi la suite svp?

This is yikes! Ret is falling behind range DPS in a Raid where Melee are OP. On top of this we are miles behind Enhance.

Classes got QoL Rune changes and Ret the class that needs Rune changes the most urgent didn’t.

I just hope they are doing something behind the scenes because Ret in PvE is in a dire spot right now with Runes…

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Where are the shaman buffs?
I am very disappoint.

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In what way? You’re right in the middle on DPS, how is that dire? You’re the second highest DPS tank, how is that dire? You’re not even that far behind shamans. You’re just trying to cry yourselves to the top, and hopefully it doesn’t work this time like it did in Wrath.

And what do we do about ele shamans? Because they’re much further behind rets than rets are behind enha. Would you agree that ele shamans need a substantial damage buff? And let’s not forget shadowpriests and boomkins, they’re all at the bottom on DPS. Now that’s dire. Want to buff them all?