Will you get voidbolt as a baseline rotational ability that you can use outside of voidform though?
nope you wont. You just get it every 90 sec for an amazing 15sec Window. or if you pick LotV which looks like a dead Talent anyway
hope they put LI into Lotv. Voidform is about Haste stacking and right now its gone. This is no Voidform this is just a boring Cosmetic effect
These changes look extremely promising, it shows theyâve been listening and reading feedback.
Taking power out of void form and redistributing it into core priest abilities is the way to go, and these changes seem to suggest exactly that.
Testing obviously needs to be done but iâm optimistic. Good riddance Void Form, i hope you never return to your current iteration.
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This is the single dumbest decicion they have ever made.
this will not save or solve the issues that shadow priests are having. it will make them just like the other classes. they arnt just changing the spells, but the entire play style.
acroding to them they are getting feedback that shadow isnt fun, they are struggling with the drain fo insanity. i have a feeling those ppl are also maining either fire mage or destro lock.
these changes will just make shadow one of the bunch.
itâs not just removing what sets shadow apart from the other save and spend classes. it completly destroys the class fantasy.
for all the good blizz had been doing durning the beta, fixing the stats scaling issue from 8.0. removing corruptions and some others changes.
they were moving in the right direction to just throw all of that away with these changes is making me both sad and infuriated.
Even the reason for them adding Devo plague back into the game is just bs, there will only be one senario where devo plague would be a better choice than VF, that is durning a quest. not a raid, not a dungeon or anything else.
Dont ruin this spec.
FFS BLIZZ!
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One of the biggest issues I had with VF was, everything I did to my build HAD to revolve around Void Form. If it didnât benefit it, then it simply wasnât worth it. I havenât been able to test these changes obviously, but hopefully it should work out okay making it a cooldown instead.
Furthermore, I think itâs great they thought about the players who actually enjoyed the current style by adding Legacy of the Void. If I donât like the new style I know I can always switch back.
Canât wait to give it a whirl!
Well, this will propably benefit shadow performance wise, but it also makes the spec less unique. Why couldnât Blizzard find away to fix current void form?
There really isnât a way to fix it.
The issue has always been one of balance.
If you have a long ramp up for the sake of raiding, then the ability falls flat outside of raiding.
If you reduce the ramping to make it viable for leveling or dungeons, then the whole ramping gameplay goes out the window.
Itâs incredibly difficult to balance the average damage output when the ability has such a high skill cap. A good Shadow Priest can get really high stacks, whereas a less good Shadow Priest canât. Weâve always bounced from being overpowered or underpowered, because itâs difficult to balance around a number of void form stacks that can vary greatly depending on the player and the gear and the content.
So yeah, itâs always been a design nightmare. Blizzard seems to acknowledge that as well.
They never realy tried to fix it
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Iâm not really good with balance stuff but I think what would have helped is insanity generation out of combat like warlocks and their soulshards. Maybe an ability that frezzes insanity and stacks (not dispertion or whatever itâs called in english) that has a medium CD in combat and a very low one outside.
I get why people want this change, Iâm just sad that again something unique is gone. I feel the same with shaman changes (though shaman are less unique in their playstyle) instead of taking what currently works good on these specs and baking in old stuff that is missed they comepletly went back to the old desgin.
I could not care less to feel like the special edgy kid that play the ââuniqueââ spec for the sake of it.
Plus i am happy for this slap to the face to those that kept saying âgo play warlock 4headâ.
I was really sure they were not going to do something so big.
I am freaking happy about those changes and the link blast talent will allow us some serious damage.
What is the connection between unique gameplay and edgy?
Because i hate when the only reason people give for VF is because it was unique. Like âlook at me I play the unique specâ, yeah the unique spec that does not work unless 600 bandaid/borrowed power.
Yeah it was cool i always said it, but a ramping mechanics will never be balanced, you can look at this 4 years to see it, we either ramp for the sake of it or we are busted and get nerfed.
I was sure they were not reworking it especially this late, they proved me wrong and I am happy they were finally ready to let it go.
Unique does not equal working or fun.
And i am always ready to sacrifice uniqueness for a more simple spec that can be balanced easier.
I never demanded anyone to look at what/how I was playing. I just enjoyed a different gameplay.
I never said that. I know there needs to be some serious fix to the current gameplay.
And yet a lot of people are complaining that classes feel to similar.
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I think that what really matters is the theme of something, to make you feel immersed in the class you are playing. That is why i said VF looked cool thematically, it delivered the theme of insanity well but practically it was bad to play with it.
Because if you look at all the classes and spec, mostly everything is buit around managing resource, building and spending it, with some mechanics to track here and there.
Why Shadow should be the only one fighting against a non practical system just to end up with 0 reward? To feel special?
If uniqueness is attached to something working i am with you in trying to protect it but this is not the case.
With VF even the slightest change can break the spec at higher level of play,
This change imo was necessary, plus if people want their resource to disappear, they can still pick Lotv.
Maybe it wonât be competitive who knows, but at least is still there, while people that loved priest before VF got forced into this playstyle and got told âgo lock/swap classâ.
People can simply keep saying that they did not try to fix VF, but the fix was not as easy as people claim or they would have done it.
Thank the gods they are moving away from voidform, if I wanted a direct spell class Iâd play a mage or destro lock. Bring back the dots!
This sounds very promising, we need to test it out though and see how it pans out. Also scaling will be crucial.
Finally some good news.
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The legion revamp is what destroyed the class fantasy, theyâre just going back to a much better version. While I like VF to an extent, this goes back to shadow priest roots and Iâm very excited to play it. VF was either overtuned or undertuned, glad they deciced to revamp it again.
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And you and other voidform haters didnt like that. So now i find it kinda funny/hypocritical that youre basicaly celebrating that it happened againâŚbut to the other side of the players.
They should have just made a second dps spec for vf.
Legacy of the void isnt thr same. It wont work and it cannot work. Without haste stacks and basicaly beign in voidform all the time its nowhere close. VF is still a 1.5 minute cd. They cannot divide one spec to two just by one talentâŚ
My one and only opinion about this is: Iâve wanted change for shadow since BfA launched and I think this is a good step in that direction. Trying something different.
Iâm so glad it happened! Thanks Blizz and thank you to the community! Without our rioting it would never have happened.
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I was not a VF hater, i said multiple times that i DO LIKE IT ,but only thematic wise, because on paper it looks cool, on the other hands the ramping mechanic have a lot of problems and is not that practical in a lot of content this game offer at the moment.
The fact that the spec was playable in that content does not mean that it was fun to play it for the majority of players.
I am celebrating that finally those who played Shadow Priest BEFORE EVEN VF EXISTED can get to play the class they loved once again, instead of being told âlOl gO lOcK iF yOu dOnâT lIkE sHaDoW vOiDfOrM, lUlZ sO uNiqUeâ.
I am not celebrating the fact that some people lost the gameplay they liked, i am simply feeling ZERO empathy towards those that kept spamming old priest player to reroll because they wanted to play the class they loved for so long.
I gave up on Shadow as soon as i saw Alpha hit like that, because i knew that they were not going to strip that horrible thing that VF is. I was one that wanted to have more feedback on it, because i was sure we were going into SL with that crap AGAIN.
Should i be sad because finally i can play a spec that intrigued me for my entire WoW life after 4 years of crap? No sorry, not gonna happen.
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