ez… jsut kite him…
Asking for PvE logs in a thread about PvP is not very useful.
Aren’t you asking for rogue buffs in another thread? I guess it makes sense since you’re in a PvE server as you said? Buffing rogues specifically in PvP would make them too oppressive, particularly in small skirmishes. They already kill anyone they want in 1v1.
Group PvP or BGs are a different question but all melee suffer there. You just need to adapt to those specific circumstances. You won’t always be able to just unload on someone without retaliation from other players.
This concept is outdated. Everyone except hunter is a hybrid class. Warriors have always been one and they dominated. This idea never held up.
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So everyone should be treated equally apart from melee who should suffer in all group PvP?
I’m confused… surely it’s time for the scales to balance and ranged to be nerfed in BGs.
No, the devs could find a way to make melee playable in group PvP. However, the superiority of ranged in these cases has always been like that. It just became more apparent because they have more instants and mobility.
Mind you, I mainly play melee so it’s not a fun situation for me either.
Melee was ‘always’ balanced to deal more damage because of the inherent limitations of being melee.
Then they changed it without thinking and now look where we are. PvP is literally unplayable as any melee and nothing is being done to fix it.
Yeah I agree that all melee Are screwed. Issue is your class is still pumping in gnome. Mine aint Even close.
And all the things that made rogue S class in pvp is outdated with the meta today.
Ofcourse A grey parser will never be A good player overall anyway. So Yeah you can see pretty fast if you are talking to A noob or not
You do remember rogues were top dps last phase, right, while both shaman specs were rock bottom.
Rogues were never top dps! And they never had A broken dps like shamans have atm
Lmfao this guy. Oh well, let’s nerf shamans. At least then people will go back to demanding rogues get nerfed xd
I haven’t seen a single spec in any iteration of wow to be so ridicilously overpowered, easy and braindead in my entire life.
It is funny how the same bunch of monkeys that we regularly see in every discussion is now trying to defend this abomination. Give any mentally challenged 7 year old kid in a daycare school a shaman and he will come out as world’s best pvper right now with this nonsense.
Try to defend it, you won’t. You will get nerfed to where you belong soon enough.
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glad being Ret, so Shaman is ok but
Friday night Prime Time on an AB bonus 13 maps…. WD
enhance shamans are pretty bad in PvP compared to rets, even with FAP.
ele shamans might be an issue.
if anything just buff ret with some mobility and nerf travel form druid, theres no way for a melee to lock them down
Rogues are very good in PvP right now though? You can literally 1v1 anyone and you’re also extremely good in skirmishes.
It’s just that in group PvP, rogue needs to adjust what it does. Mutilate spam dealing high amounts of damage while also stunning the target won’t of course work as flawlessly when other players are involved.
Parses in PvE are not relevant to PvP. Mage is there dominating and I don’t see much complaining about them.
Rogues were top DPS though. They were not #1 at the highest level but they were very high with just Saber Slash + Envenom. Of course, I’m simplifying the nuances here but that’s where the damage came from: two abilities.
What is Alliane?
I rerolled from ally to horde and having way more fun now.
Ally is pretty much unplayable at this point.
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im playing both horde and alliance currently and both sides are fun. if you wanna do bgs and organized pvp horde does have a significant advantage atm tho
Ally wins 1/10 ab’s on a good day.
Between all the shamans and undeads. Horde are practically immune to CC. Whereas ally are totally open to get cc’d to oblivion.
And ofc… shamans. Shamans are beeeeeeyond broken. It would be okay ally could also have shamans.
Think p3 needs to bridge the gap and let ally have shaman and horde have Pala. The sod team will never manage to balance this.
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if…
only priest can so whatever
shamans horde only, i still get killed by every alliance warlock/rogue/ret pala even when i had 5k hp in bgs, we still paper so stop complaining
to be fair… DK was even more broken when WOTLK launched but Shamans rn are beyond retarded
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