Should Blood Elves get the new diversed human skin tones in SL?

Obtuse question.

There are set concepts that you establish when you write a story, and if you have not changed those concepts for the past 30 years of your story, then you have set a rule in your story.

Rules in a story can be changed provided it have great reasoning.

It is just storytelling.

This is ridicolous.

Except, as I mentioned, the past 10000 years the elves have existed, and how these particular elves have always been portrayed in the franchise in official art be it video game or drawn art.

Remember, that a red skin colour is not a caucasian skin colour.

They have obviously always been designed with a reddish colour though?

Devi?

Yes, described as ‘dark-skinned’

From an alternative universe too

Not to mention what is dark in this case? Is it a darker red? That would be dark-skin. Is it actually dark as in with humans? Text does not help much.

What really matters is how blizzard have chosen to present the High Elves through the warcraft franchise… in all artforms, in fact.

And as we saw with WoD, paralell worlds/alternate universe’s tend to mirror each other largely.

I think you’re grasping at straws here tbh. “Dark skin” is just that. I don’t really see what the problem is seeing as no lore is really going to change due to these added customisations.

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https://i.imgur.com/lfa88QO.png

I wouldn’t call any of these skin tones “reddish”, or even all that pale besides a few. They range from white to olive, and are distinctly human as opposed to fantasy-esque.

The AU argument comes out. Devi smiles in the distance.

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Why are you bringing this to a personal level all of a sudden?

And if this were something the likes of Tolkien we were talking about, I would absolutely agree with that sentiment. Warcraft isn’t Tolkien.

Warcraft has changed story beats, aesthetics and its very timeline several times. You might see why I have a hard time grasping why a relatively modest range of skin tones can get someone worked up.

Man I disagree with this. Sunfire Elves don’t get anything except a diluted aesthetic if you add paler skintones tbh.

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My favourite thing about the “alternative reality” argument is that it implies that the universe where Thrall died as a baby is for some reason also the universe where elves are black. Thrall’s death was clearly a liberation; I don’t like what this implies about his behind-the-scenes actions in our universe.

Elves in the Dragon Prince seem to cover the full breadth of real world complexions through the different varieties, whereas Blood Elves in Warcraft are the only elf race to possess human skin-tones. I don’t think it’s fair to compare them.

Honestly if we wrapped this thread in copper wire we would generate unlimited, clean energy due to how it keeps spinning over the same points.

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Elves truly are the future.

1200 posts about lore - a position I can appreciate, even if I strongly disagree - and then blatant, angry racism at the mere concept of black elves. Wew.

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To an extend. yes.

“White” I call that pale red.

I did not.

Agreed.

But how does that change anything? Have you ever seen or read about a black elf in the main timeline through the, not 10000 years, but more about 5000-7000 years they have existed?

No? Alright then… I suppose we can agree that a precedence have been set then

Have you ever taken a colourblind/lantern test?

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https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/thumb/4/4f/Garneg_Charskull.jpg/1024px-Garneg_Charskull.jpg

Dragonmaw orcs have always been portrayed as yellow/green, in-game and in official art:

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/e/e9/Koak_and_Steel.jpg

So what the hell is this?

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/8/84/Jodan.jpg

Changing Dragonmaw orcs from yellow to grey is blatant pandering to the dunmer community; it goes against all established lore, and Blizzard’s only added it to appease their stock market in Morrowind.

All I want is a clear lore reason as to why Dragonmaw changed from yellow to grey. Maybe they got it from N’zoth? But right now it’s just SJW pandering.

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Agreed.

It is ridicolous.

Is there like a queue for someone to post some utter nonsense in this thread after the previous person grows tired? Who’s next in line?

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I said it before, I’ll say it again: There are perfectly reasonable ways to make the skin options reasonable in WoW.

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That’s why I wanted a separate race all along. Bet they’d look less blackface if they were a new race of elves too…

What do you call naked Pandaren holding hands in a circle?

A clear case of shameless panda ring!

No need, as far as I have noted, it is not really wrong.

Except I never really noted the sickly-pale skintone that Blood Elves can have.

The colours range from a sickly-pale colour and to different spectrums of red, even to a red-light brownish. But then again, the darker red-brown is not really what I have an issue with.

I am so looking forward to the new face options for humans. It’ll make my character look much better.

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/8/84/Nofal.jpg

Zandalari trolls were originally designed to have pink skin. This is the established lore since vanilla; they have pink skin because of the Zandalar raspberries that make up most of their diet. You can read about this in a quest in pre-Cata Un’goro, where a zandalari troll tells you this upfront.

https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpedia/6/61/Zandalari_Archon.jpg

This here is a perfect example of Blizzard having no respect for their own lore. Every zandalari consume zandalar pink raspberries to maintain their pink hue, so why are they now suddenly all yellow? Am I expected to believe there’s some kind of yellow raspberry? If there is, blizzard never mentioned this, and so naturally this must just be a tie in with the release of the new Simpsons movie.

I’m so sick of these skin-based retcons.

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