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afk is bannable, leaving is not for all i know.
Im also curious about this. I wish blizzard had been a bit more clear and explicit on this topic. I have pretty much stopped doing shuffle alltogether, partly cos Im worried about getting banned - having left quite a few shuffles.
I think the safe course of action is to keep “playing”, nobody can fault you for not trying your absolute hardest. If you lose 6 rounds nobody else will lose much if any rating, and you’ll drop a good chunk of mmr which makes it easier to get the daily win in the next round.
If anyone have heard of people getting banned for leaving shuffles Id like to hear some details.
TLDR:
“Players who leave excessively will be subject to account review and suspensions, as abandoning matches repeatedly is a violation of the terms of service via exploiting functionality to the detriment of the game environment and the intended player experience.”
somehow this doesn’t matter in rated bg ? there is people dropping mmr and boosting daily, not to mention the ones that make the groups and don’t enter and cannot even be reported from the scorebaord xD
edit:
the moment leaving can get you suspended, just means people will soft int, like in league to speed up games, and youw ont be able to tell often who is doing what, like, you don’t block burst in time, is it bannable ? and so on.
you might want to ask blizzard about that then
If you see people doing it, just keep reporting it and explain about it >_>
Pretty sure, despite them saying it is an offense, it really isn’t.
Unlike toxicity through chat, leaving a game isn’t because there is no way to verify why that player left. I can be taking care of my nan and have to leave when she needs aid. The game cannot punish for that. That is why no action is taken, they cannot hold people to stay in games.
Even if you think it’s intentional, purely from a legal pov what are they going to say? No sir you cannot leave the game, yes we understand your nan is in need of help going to the toilet, but WoW is more important.
Like leave as much as you want, they cannot do anything. Toxic language however is banneable.
You do know that they can ban your account without even having to give you any response or reason right?
The way you are explaining is things that can happen sure, but if you are leaving excessive amount of times you are doing something wrong, period.
Even if you do not believe its an offense, its called griefing if you do it intentionally which they dont even have to prove youve done.
So you giving the advice to “leave as much as you want, they cannot do anything” is telling ppl to risk their account because you believe blizzard cannot do anything if they dont want to.
If you want to risk your account because you believe griefing is the correct way to play WoW, go ahead, when you get suspended you wont be missed.
yesterday i was 3/6 and last round i ragequit because people were literally inting, i cba with the stress of that game mode.
as soon as i quit i realized that i didn’t get even the honor points for the vault, which was what i wanted to get, damn i guess i have to play the last round next time
The issue is, if you want to risk your account that is all on you. If you keep leaving RSS because you tilt, get mad or w/e you want to put out as a reason for it and get suspended, you cannot blame blizzard for it.
Some people are giving advice to leave to grief others, quite amazing isnt it?
You could also see it like this:
I join your RBG, in the middle of it because I see 1 other idiot in our RBG doing something bad, does that allow me to leave the RBG griefing the rest of the ppl since it most likely will ruin that RBG run for the rest? or should I keep going the best I can still?
The obv answer to me is keep going because id rather not grief ppl, theres enough of that kind in WoW without me doing it aswell.
idk, ive had bgs where people were griefing nonstop, id just leave, wasting too much consuambles and energy to carry them
Depends if you talk about normal BGs or RBGs.
In normal BGs I always expect ppl to not know what they are doing and play out from that part. What I hate the most with normal BGs is when you que up and you get in an already lost BG, that tilts me.
In RBGs you normally take ppl with experience if you want to push that atleast have some understanding on what to do. Bringing in randoms without experience is the same as expecting ppl to fk some things up, but the enemy could do the same.
I literally played RBGs before (not high but 1600-1800+) where I had hunters/frost mages defending points/flags and go afk while someone capped the point/flag right next to them.
Will always be some ppl who take things more serious than the rest while others feel its perfectly fine to grief.
My man, i really am sorry to break it to you but they aren’t banning accounts for leaving… trust me :).
And you know that as facts, so you are going around spreading information that you 100% have proven to be correct and blizzard have stated the exact same thing for you? Can you provide that proof please?
Otherwise, im sorry to break it for you but… I dont trust people who go around saying “trust me”.
Since no one has proven if “gameplay sabotage” reports do anything, your only option if you want to be safe or avoid Deserter is soft-inting, which is simple, it shouldn’t need a guide, just spam the same heal, you’ll eventually get interrupted and have an excuse not to press any button for 5 seconds, other healer will go up, you’ll go down and find an easier match.
If you really care about what your partners will say or manual reviews:
- Equip only passive trinkets, this way the second CC on you will go for its full duration, so they can’t say you didn’t use your trinket.
- Blow all your cooldown spells at the start instead of staggering them, now you can’t commit the “sin” of dying with your cooldown up.
- Open Talents and quickly swap to your “inting” loadout focused on damage to minimize your healing power.
I normally wouldn’t help griefers but it benefits me as a healer since you’ll give me more rating if you go 0-6, and your rating will be low anyway since you only care about conquest and not rating for some reason.
Can you prove anyone got banned for leaving? At this point this is what has to be proven, not the reverse, because there are far more people complaining about leavers than people complaining that they got banned for leaving (0). It’s as disingenuous as saying “you didn’t go to space so do you have proof the Earth is round?”
Google “got banned leaving solo shuffle,” all you’ll find are either people begging for bans or YouTubers with a surprised face thumbnail who ate lizzard’s PR bait and act like PVP is “saved and lizzard listened!”
lizzard does this with bots in Classic, “we banned exactly 420,69 malicious accounts this week, thanks for your feedback,” with zero proof, to appease the normies even though they might have done nothing and the next day an equal amount of bots are spotted.
Governments do that too with when fining rich companies/politicians to appease the normies, who think a 69-million dollar fine is a lot for Amazon.
So of course if lizzard says “you’ll get banned if you leave” even though you won’t, a lot of careful law-abiding players are still going to stop leaving because they don’t want to take the chance, that’s why I and many others never bought gold in Classic (besides finding it cringe to pay someone else to play my game for me) despite lizzard doing hardly anything against gold buyers (my guild mates were openly talking about buying gold in Discord), 1% is enough not to risk my clean “criminal record” on such an old account.
lizzard isn’t exactly more trustworthy than a “trust me” guy either, they lie A LOT, especially in false promises of exclusivity: - lie-gion M+15 appearance tweeted a year before BFA to become unobtainable, changed right before BFA so people wasted their time and money grinding on 12 classes.
- lie-gion hidden item level scaling on enemies because “we wanted you to find out lol.”
- lie-gion legendary item bad luck protection hidden soft cap.
- Shadowlands S3 Elite sets “only obtainable during this season,” still obtainable in S4 with no prior communication.
- WOTLKC Glory mounts being removed in Phase 2, still obtainable in Phase 2 but announced just a week before Phase 2 so you wasted the past 3 months of subscription doing toxic finger-pointing achievements for no reason.
- “We don’t make money from the WoW Token,” “it’s the only way to combat RMT” - lizzard President.
- “Buying gold is forbidden,” only acts upon it once they’ve released their own RMT business.
- “We can’t pay for active GMs but sure, we’ll manually review some neckbeard’s full match because he claims he got sabotaged.”
- “Buy Overwatch 2, it’s better, it will have PVE, lol.”
All I found about leaving is this:
a random healer with zero proof and zero response to people’s questions in his own thread, very likely just lying to scare players into not leaving his lobbies.
I’m still not going to start leaving, I’ve never felt the need to as a healer, since the other healer isn’t impactful enough, his team mates are, and next round they’ll be on my side, leaving at 0-3 is admitting I’m the worst in the lobby and bound to lose six rounds. If there are players who would rather tank a CR loss and Deserter than spend just three more minutes and at least “soft-int” the last three rounds to make them end fast without raising suspicion, then that’s an ego and mental health issue, #RIPbozo, I hope they find help IRL during that break so I don’t meet them again.
And I’m not saying leaving should be allowed, there is no excuse for it since teams are shuffled so you can always come back, unlike in LoL where you know five minutes into the game that you’re going to surrender at 15 minutes because all your team is feeding. I understand that you don’t want people to be aware that it’s allowed because it will actively hurt your experience, but saying it’s forbidden and asking other people to prove it’s not, when there is zero ban evidence other than a small PR line on a patch note to appease the YouTubers makes you look desperate and high on copium. Like “P-p-pwease, don’t weave, Bwizzard will b-b-ban you! ”
If I have to prove something blizzard have stated themselves, then I guess people have to prove everything themselves
That person left the RSS!
“Can you prove it?”
Heres picture!
“Can you prove you didnt photoshop it?”
…
If blizzard is not doing their job of banning people for breaking what they themselves have said, then its entirely up to them.
But would you suggest people to leave RSS and say, with 100% certainty that they would never ban or suspend for it?
Can you say with 100% certainty that they wont do it tomorrow? Next week?
The uncertainty is what I usually go for since u dont know if blizzard is doing a 180 and bans tomorrow.
And I suggest to people that they dont leave due to the uncertainty.
And when people claim that blizzard would never do it, so just keep doing it, I will keep suggesting otherwise.
Am I wrong? Possibly, but id rather not risk my or other peoples account with uncertainty. But if they want to risk it then its all up to them.
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