Should intolerance and bigotry be represented in game?

The World of Warcraft is a fantasy world not the real world. For many it’s a place to escape the bad stuff that’s happening in the real world. So why not try to make it a better place, instead of replicating the real world one to one?

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To be fair, people disagree to this argument when requesting representation.

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There’s nothing wrong with representation. But in my opinion there’s no need to replicate everything.

To me homophobia has no place in the real world either. But we have it. But that doesn’t mean we should have it in the virtual world aswell.

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It makes more realistic stories.

Do you think that a homophobe can’t be a hero?

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Garrosh was pretty much racist so theres that.

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What character isn’t

So you only want your side to be represented?

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It certainly is an interesting subject to explore. Because obviously human nature is flawed, and those who are villains tend to have no standards they stoop to.

So to suggest that every single entity on the world is 100% in support of different sensual preferences is rather naive. Especially not anyone who’d be a villain. You think a bandit in Elwynn Forest will give gays a pass because he respects them too much to rob them, or do you think he’ll rob 'em and maybe make an off-color remark as well?

This is an interesting thing to say. It does kind of ring true as well. It does seem like Blizzard is trying to portray some kind of utopia in this regard, and utopias aren’t fun at all and it kind of goes against human nature, which involves conflict and a sense of individuality.

I guess you could also say it is offensive in the sense that gay people can’t handle any kind of conflict without breaking down emotionally, thus need a “Safe Space”. Implies that they’re weak of spirit gets ready for the impending angry posts

Also a (dis)honorable mention would have to be that one brave poster who pointed out, that saying that it doesn’t matter that there are named NPCs in Stormwind getting blackwashed because “They are unimportant” can come off as offensive, saying that black people can’t have any new characters made, but can have “Old unimportant characters” instead.

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Anduin. And probably Velen.

You wouldn’t really want to promote hatred and rejection in a game, would you. The races of Warcraft hate each other but that’s tied to faction wars and friction, it’s not like they all lived peacefully and someone decided they can’t stand red fur on Pandarens for some reason.

Homophobia and racism are toxic, it’s not like there are open debates where everyone just sits and agrees on issues, and that has no place in a game where people pay money to escape. And as someone above said it, there’s plenty of that in the player base already.

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Isnt the game racist enough? I mean, the whole Horde vs. Alliance is basically a massive racewar with totalitarian regimes.
An Orc cant fight for the Alliance even he he wants to.

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If the other side causes harm to others, then yes. I don’t want that side to be represented.

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Depends in what way. Like Garrosh fits pretty much what is requested here and he was dealt with and treated as such.

We already have sides causing harm to each other with the Horde and Alliance. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Racism obviously exists. Garrosh was an orc supremecist.

Yes, no one is crazy enough to deny that those are bad things. But doesn’t WoW have a lot of pretty nasty things in it? Such as moments like magic nukes dropped on cities, genocides that end with skeletons used as pavement for a road, not to mention characters who exhibited signs of “My race is best, yours isn’t” ala Garrosh Hellscream. You don’t think these are “Toxic” things that shouldn’t have been brought up in-game?

Then again these were events that happened before Blizzard had its whole writing department unclawed, so to have anything with even a slight edge to it will make people go crazy.

A sad fact is that if we don’t openly talk and discuss topics, they tend to go underground and fester.

Pretending that a thing does not exist, will only give it more subculture power.

However, there is nothing that states that WoW should be the medium to discuss such topics.

There’s literally a road of skeletons paving half a zone but homophobia is a step too far

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Oh yeah, it definetly depends on how you handle it.

I’m sure there’s plenty of good examples of really believable stories, when topics like these are handled well.
But it needs context in my opinion and shouldn’t just be included uncommented, just for the sake of including it.

I rather have no representation of this, than a poorly done one.

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