Including LGBT characters in WoW certainly is not ‘imposing a life style’. I’m also not sure what ‘influence’ is being exerted, other than acknowledgement of the existence of LGBT people. WoW is approved for children aged 12 years and older. Are you saying they should be shielded from the fact that LGBT people exist? If so, why?
Because they have 12 years old?
What is wrong with a 12 year old learning that LGBT people exist?
Sadly, it’s probably important that a 12 year old learns about the existence of pedophiles in order to know that they should report such behaviour to a responsible adult. Your second question is just offensive. None of this has anything to do with LGBT representation in WoW.
Edit: Removed the second part of the quote as the original post was deleted.
What’s that got to do with LGBTQ representation?
Bit of a leap there don’t you think?
“Do you like ice cream?”
“Yes”
“So you support the tobacco industry’s use of slave labor in getting it’s produce.”
edit @Rakera pls ignore this it is for X-man, somehow it put a reply to you and I’m sorry.
You again?
If you don’t like gay marriage, don’t get one. Slip further down the slippy slippery slope and marry your dog. Or someone else’s dog.
This is a civil rights movement the same as abolition - there are people who start fires, and people who put them out. You can join the underground railroad, or go around lynching people. I am speaking figuratively, and I hope you find peace with your issues of sexuality and gender and we can both enjoy our lives and the kids can play wow and rek every entity they can whilst depleting the environment’s resources like herbs, etc.
Yeah, it’s really groovy to hate on LGBTs whilst playing this game where tigers never go extinct, no matter how many are killed.
What is worse, loving whom you love, or big-game hunting? Please try to see the big picture.
However I fear that they will implement the gay character[s] so badly that I will run screaming back to the 90s when we had Xena and Buffy and it was all innuendo and subtext, so trust me, I feel at least some of your pain. Watching your favourite franchise jump the shark is never fun, and I hope this doesn’t happen for you with Shadowlands, because that would suck.
To be completely honest, I am not so sure about LGBT (as I literally do not care for them and they do nothing good/bad for the lore), but the race part has always been inriguing for me. When i create RP toons for the Horde/Alliance, I actually try to think through their history with other races. Who are their freinds, foes, maybe something inbetween? I also like to write characters that criticise their own faction (a lot of those are horde for pretty damn obvious reasons). Besides, the game actually explores this concept on some level. I mean, the nightbourn did try to go to alliance, but night elves threw a tantrum over their actions thousands of years ago, that is the only reason they joined horde. Can you imagine what some of those nightbourne that joined the Horde must’ve felt like when the war broke out and literally any and all hope for these two races to coexist and trust each other again burned in front of their own eyes with Teldrassil? Or how about the hatred of blood elves in some of the humans for their betrayal in Dalaran and their role in destruction of Theramor?
I swear, this game has so many possibilities of mature and interesting stories, yet none of them ever come because it always gets overshadowed by something else.
Lmao, what?
Consider your post liked twice.
well i’m racist against Vulperas, does that count??
I think both Alliance and Horde have bigger worries than who sticks what where. Please don’t encourage Blizzard to turn this game into a morality play - I have Star Trek for that.
As for racism, who cares that some humans are black, when there are green-skin orcs to fight?
If you put in racism and lgbQt stuff, then do we need idiot bigots telling female players/characters that they should be cooking in the home, not hunting demon heads and murdering dinosaurs? It’s not The Doll’s House thank Dog, lmao.
This. A thousand times.
It is a fantasy world that this game represent s I run to. I play games to run from real world problems and politics. Leave games out of it,please.
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sexual orientation isn’t politics. Rights of sexual orientations is, but including a character who is gay is not the same as including a character who is gay and sends you on quests to promote equality for gay people. The second does not exist in wow.
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playing wow to “escape from politics” is a whataboutism of the lowest calibre. The game revolves around two factions caught in a power struggle trying to enforce their varying philosophies on the world and survive. This is basically one of the core themes of politics- how do we interact with other nations and what should we and should we not do.
When an orc sends you a mission to kill alliance because they’re “alliance pigs who have no business here” that is an infinitely more political quest than some gay individual simply mentioning they have a husband whilst they tell you who they are.
If you’re using wow to escape politics, it’s a poor choice. If you can ignore the political overtures the game throws at you every time the factions are referenced, it shouldnt be hard to do this for that one quest a gay dude offers you (which as said, I’d debate is not even a political inclusion).
Racism already exists in wow. Except as in alliance races hating on horde races and the other way round too.
this is a fantasy world where real world stigma and prejudices do not exist,
we can be free to be ourselves
mass effect had gay relationships, so did skyrim, so did fable, so does SWtoR, so does FFXIV, so does Runescape, etc
at this point WoW would be the odd one out of a vast majority by not including total normal relationships outside of the christian dogmatic tradition of male+female only relationships allowed
this is 2020 we no longer care, as a society, about gay people existing,
they exist - they are normal - they should be included
It would be a strange and ultimately weak addition to the setting. I can scarcely fathom the quantity of suspension of disbelief one would have to apply, for skin tones to matter in the slightest from an in-universe point of view.
We have Old Gods. We have a faction tension born from several wars. We have a literal Space Satan floating about in a prison, and his endless armies all but guaranteed to one day reform ranks and threaten the lives of quite literally everyone on Azeroth and beyond.
Then there are the everyday threats. There is literally no area on the world map absent monsters, conflicts or life-threatening hazards of some other kind. If you want to dig deeper into the emotional spectrum of people facing constant adversity, dig into that. Dig into what it takes for a person to not only survive - but to live - in a world so precarious as Azeroth.
I don’t see the answer being “sending dirty looks at the gay couple running the local bakery.”
Folks like you reporting people that disagree with you and weren’t too diplomatic in the language they used while doing it, but that’s what your lot do, isn’t it? Cancel Culture - the bastion of those incapable of rational discourse and the weapon of choice when that cognitive dissonance kicks in and the “reeeeeeeeeee!!!”'s start getting thrown in the direction of the monitor.
Sad.
There’s a degree of irony in you of all people denouncing someone as ‘non-diplomatic’.
Lemme know when you become capable of it aswell, will you?
Until representation comes in. And that’s not just about sexual orientation, but in general.
I think you miss the essence of that statement. We don’t play games so they can be cartoonized versions of our world problems. Characters in games have their problems, we have ours. Keep it that way.
Talk about whataboutism. And infinitely more political too. I guess we’ll just have to take your word for it.
That sounds a lot like an opinion. The biggest political overtures in this game are jokes at best.
Sounds an awful lot to me that you are trying to convince this person that since you think politics have been in game even to a degree that is beyond the notice of most, which is not true, then it’s ok to go in overdrive. That’s dishonest and petty.