So I just completed layer 8 of Twisting Corridors at ilevel 199

Bears are very necessary, its good that you do the bear necessive! :smiley:

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Only time it got hard was if i didnt get enough hp or the ā€œcant take more dmg then 25% of your healthā€. The lichborne +death coil with Death strike cooldown reduction on lichborne and enough hp i was unkillable. I can easily see other classes having a hard time tho. DKs are one of the strongest classes in there.

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Yeah that’s true, the Lichborne build is strong in both offense and defense so it helps no matter what you’re focusing on. Maybe it’s just other classes having it rough/having their best powers be rarer.

Mate seriously, get off your high horse.
Torghast is super badly balanced, and getting carried or dumped on by the balance is what its all about; not skill, ilvl or whatever.

To give you an idea compare these 2 combinations of epic powers warlocks can get and you should get an idea of how bad it really is:

Vs

Getting the former basically means you cant even do a layer 7 without it being a drag; getting the latter makes that same run be an insane powertrip…

And getting the latter and completing a run while others fail because they end up with the former does not make you more skilled, just more lucky. And noone in their right mind will feel proud for winning the lotery that is Torghast anima powers.

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I dunno dude, sounds pretty fun to me. But I’ll believe you on that as I haven’t touched my lock this expansion.

A certain Baloo the bear from the Disney version of the Jungle Book would be liking that spelling mistake…

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Well, if you think that being to portal without reason to do so vs getting a 250k hp+ demon that does super high damage isn’t a clear balance issue then I guess nothing can…

Actually I don’t think it’s a balance issue, some powers suck, some are strong, that’s how they made it to be. If they were all strong then there’d be no fun in choosing a power and Torghast would get boring super quick because everyone would blast through it without even thinking.

I mean what are you trying to prove here?

Getting this:

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=333471/undertakers-crown

vs.

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=332603/exterminator

Also feels like a non-choice. Wohooo exploding Maw Rats vs. the single power that makes Unholy DK playable on higher keys.

I agree there is a balance issue but cherrypicking bad/situational powers vs. ā€œBiSā€ powers is not helping here.

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Twisting Corridors isn’t hard or challenging. It’s tedious.

There is nothing difficult, hard or challenging about getting 100k overkill auto attacked by a mob through your 150k HP on first pull.

I did it with a group, it was smooth. Blizzard tried their HARDEST to stop us at layer 8 final boss, by using Maw of The Maw as their boss against us. This was the most rigged boss in the entire 8 layers, fully designed to be unbeatable without a DPS check.

We luckily forced it to die through our rather bad DPS (100k first dps, and everyone else 50-60k due to bad anima powers), we were lucky it was erased by an anima power when it reached low HP because that is exactly when we wiped to unavoidable group wide oneshot aoe doing more than 100k (through DH defensives and naturally increased magic defense). We died together with the boss, likely less than 100 milliseconds after the boss died.

Said no one ever.

Altash receives loot: [The Golden Straw: Blessed Straw of the Attention Seeker]!

The forums are full of people like that, what do you mean?

Complaints about Torghast are NOT about not being able to one-shot everything. Take Soul Ashes from it and no one will ever complain.

Try with fury, and with bad luck on anima. Have a nice day :slight_smile:

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Ahh, the humble brag thread.

OP, what took you so long? Real alpha nerds completed this 3/4 days ago.

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Euhm, you are comparing uncommon(green name) and common (white name) powers. And you say those are bad. This while I showed the same but with even worse examples in 4 epic powers.

But hey, thanks for agreeing and for your input of showing how bad some powers really are and so that anima powers are a lotery that makes or breaks a run.

Fine, wanna see an useless DK power?

There. Killing your pet which is your main DPS is dumb as hell and you dont lack in AOE. Its an automatic skip every time.

What challenge? You can do 2 runs and get 2 completely different results, all based on what powers you get. It’s a terrible RNG design, where skill has nothing to do with it. Doesn’t matter how well you know your class, it only matters that you get those incredibly OP powers on your run that flattens the enemy.

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Ah good example!
Now think about this: you get that power on your runs start… how does that feel? Will that make your run any easier, or not? Not right? So why does it even exist?

And so do you agree, taking that in consideration, that anima powers in Torghast needs balancing?

I don’t have much time to play sadly.

How do you know that when you’ve only done a single layer though?