And make dungeons boring as *** ?
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To resolve the problem of the gold, we need to reduce the important of the gold.
Why do we need golds ?
- Mounts trainers
- Mounts vendors
- Double spec
- Spells trainer
- Ore/Herbs/Elemental/Cloth to craft mats for raid
- Random items from npcs
- Food, Mana
How many ?
- Mount 60% = 10g
- Mount 100% = 40g
- Mount 150% = 250g
- Mount 280% = 4500g (with reputation)
- Double spec = 1k
- Spell training = 1k
So, you already need 7k golds for a character to being confortable, and maybe on a reroll because he will farm Ore/Herbs for exemple so 14k golds.
And then, the second part why you need golds is to buy flask for raid, buying some mats to craft something for your optimization or buying gems, enchant.
So this is my proposition :
- Reduce by 50% the costs of all training mounts, mounts, double spec, spell training
- Put more nodes of Ore/Herbs to reduce their valor
- Up the drop rate of all elemental things, chloth, enchanting mats etc.
(Of course if you want you can just put everything free)
But if you destroy the valor of the gold, you also discourage the need to get them so why you would buy gold ? Why you would carry GDKP raid ? For what ? There is no reason anymore.
We don’t need an economy based on our bad world on a game.
This is not only Blizzard’s problem. Example article I found on the interent:
https://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2013/12/follow-money-terrorism-and-rmt.html
Besides, I find it hillarious, that people on this forum constantly demand information and communication form Blizzard, but when they get it and it’s contrary to what they believe, they refuse to acknowledge it.
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That would make Classic just as “fun” in this aspect as Retail with free training and charity mounts and no need to eat or drink. No Thanks and #noChanges.
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Needing +6k golds instead +14k golds is “free” for you ?
And where the fk is the link with no need to eat or drink.
Ok enjoy your Wotlk arcade game with full GDKP then.
0 sense, 0 logic on your message.
Well you said:
didn’t you
And in later patches, we did not need to eat and drink (and implicitly spend money for this) between fights any longer. A new toon no longer (from, I think, Cata onwards to Retail) no longer has food and drink in inventory upon being created.
It is not fun when you can handle everything the game throws at you without now and then being forced to choose this spell, or that gear over repair and food.
If you do not agree or iunderstand, you can always insult people 
I am not into GDKP. I don’t buy G at all, and my in-game “fortune” would allow me to transfer everywhere even if I sold all my inventory at ‘buy-value’
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Mate, You really need to work on accepting criticism and different opinions. You went full offense on the poor guy, simply for not liking Your idea.
Bac to the topic:
First, it would be really nice to have some insight from Blizzard on this matter. Do they plan to do anything new with boting and RMT, or do we go into WotLK with the same systems we have today? Just a simple answer would suffice for me, I don’t need to know the specifics.
Second, some time ago I came across a nice idea for lessening the bot problem. The idea was to
- appoint some trusted people within the community,
- give them clear guidelines on what evidence does Blizzard need to confirm bitting (eg. Video evidence taken from several days, taken at different hours)
- Give them tools for easy reporting (in-game system, or a special site)
- Treat their reports as priority, and ban bots asap.
It seems like a good idea for an efficient, low cost system.
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Because Blizzard did a massiv up regen when you are out of combat since Cataclysm ??
Where the fk it has to do with reducing the cost of the mana foods and general foods ???
Are you lost ?
Yes i don’t understand, because there is no logic with your answer.
Saying “We don’t regen anymore because foods is free or cost less” ? Wtf ?
If it’s an insult for you, you don’t need much to feel insulted.
Good for you.
GDKP exists because of the gold value.
Again, enjoy your GDKP serv then.
Because there is no logic to his post, mixing cost reducing with the fact we don’t need regen anymore like retail. And with his name “Vanillataur”, it’s not a surprise to me, this community compare everything with Retail.
And your proposition is good, but the thing is we know all Blizzard will never do anything, it’s too much human ressources dependent because you need people, while chaning some value in the code, i mean gold cost is simple.
The economy is an important aspect of MMORPGs, by devaluing gold to the ground you’re not only hurting the game but you’re artificially creating inflation.
Cheaters will still want to buy gear, boosts, etc so the cost of this will simply go up. What do you think will happen to the Auction House prices?
People buy gold because it saves time. Time is the driving factor for people to cheat. Just because gold is “worthless” doesn’t mean that “time” is worthless.
In the worst case scenario, cheaters will simply pay for carries directly online. The good thing about gold requirement is that it forces the cheaters to work with gold since it’s important. And gold is much easier to follow (for blizzard) than IRL currencies.
I still think Blizzard needs to actively ban bots and cheaters.
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Era servers have almost no GPDK anyway, and everything is so expensive, that I often have to chosse what to buy or repair especially when starting a new character.
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This is a solid idea. I’m just worried that cheaters and the gold selling business would infiltrate this community… since we’re screwing over their business.
How would these people be chosen? Do you think that going through a verification process (real identity etc) is required? Or would you think that won’t be necessary?
People will can’t buy gear, boosts etc. because what will the seller do with golds after that ? Nothing, because everything he needed is already bought by his own gold won by quest lvling. Why do you want gold if you don’t have anything to buy with it , except some foods for example which doing a dg and winning gold within is enough to buy what you want ?
And for the AH, it can be die, because it will be so simple to farm Ore/Herbs etc etc. that you’ll just connect your reroll for farm it without effort.
You know Blizzard will never do it, they didn’t even on Classic WoW, why they’ll do on the semi arcade game that is Wotlk ?
- Classic ERA is dead so ofc there is no GDKP
- And why are you comparing Classic with Wotlk ? Classic is Classic, Wotlk is Wotlk.
How about you just farm up to 100000 gold yourself and then delete all of it to see how stupid that is.
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Exactly my point. Another currency will replace gold if you remove gold.
If you remove the auction house, people will simply spam trade chat and create their “own” auction house system via trade windows…
That’s the whole point of making this thread is to get Blizzard to wake up. They’ve recently made posts about how they have a “new vision” for WOTLK. Let’s see if it’s true.
WOTLK is most likely doomed if they don’t do anything.
On a side note, I’d love to know how many people that have more than 100k gold actually legitly farmed it lol.
Those two blue posts you linked are nothing but full of utter garbage, only saying what needs to be said for PR reasons.
It’s not like they openly say that they don’t do nothing. And neither is it the first time Blizz would be caught outright lying.
To be fair, that is a position Blizzard themselves have put them in. By behaving like they do.
It’s really not so strange that people, even long time huge fans like myself, loose faith and trust in this company.
Ofc they need to do this. Sadly the blue posts linked earlier is right about one thing:
“As I said, until there is no longer a financial motivation to do so, these will never go away and that is 100% fully in the hands of players that give them money.”
And that is why I’m saying that Blizzard needs to come down hard on those who buy gold. Give them a 1 month ban the first time they’re caught. If they do it a second time they get a permaban.
That is, IF they are serious about this.
Tell me what or it’s not a valable argument.
I didn’t say to remove AH.
They’ll don’t, stop dreaming.
How many post we had about this problem since Classic, nothing changed.
It’s already doomed, because they’ll don’t do anything and because nobody want to destroy the value of the gold.
This is a solid argument!
This one too! Gold is only a go-between for time and goods not worth anything in and of itself. And in Classic WoW (all the expansions to avoid misunderstandings) time is the most sought after resource.
This is the only good and lasting solution.
- classic is not dead
- WotLK Classic is still Classic It sure aint Retail.
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- Yes ofc 10 players connected is not dead
- Wotlk is Wotlk, Classic is Classic, Retail is Retail.
Classic is just a name to tell us it’s a re release of the old Wotlk. Not meaning that it’s a Wotlk Vanilla like, that’s the difference, you understand only what you want or dream.
I already did.
I wouldn’t even give them 1 month ban. I’d make it permanent. There is no excuse for buying gold. Everyone who buys gold knows what they’re doing is against the ToS.
Just a small disclaimer, It was not my idea, I’ve seen or heard it somewhere, but not remember where, so can’t credit the real author.
How do You think they can do any damage to such initiative? I see two possibilities: they won’t submit reports, or they will submit false reports. Both are easily solved.
The idea is that these reports should be checked by GMs. Since they are structured in a specific way (there should be a standardized form for the report), it is easier and quicker to check (like checking a/b/c/d test at school).
So if someone doesn’t submit reports (or the number of submissions is significantly lower than from other players of the same server), or submits false claims, You message them “Thanks for Your service, but due to low number of reports/ many unjustified reports we’ll need to replace You with another player”.
I don’t know really, but recently they’ve chosen members for the community council, so maybe they have some good way of finding people who want to do something for the game.
Unless You can provide me with any data to back up Your statement, I’m gonna believe those blue posts and the people quoted in the article I linked later. You, of course are free to have Your own opinion.
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