Damn Shivette always lurking on warrior post, exposing that you have no clue about it.
Warrior is the worst tank atm.
The only oktier warrior tank is dualwield fury which is… absolutely the vanilla dps pve spec.
Admit that this class is trashtier in any aspect of the game rn and it’s not normal.
The problem lies on lack of scalling on certain abilities like Rend, Thunder Clap and Revenge. Current raid has heavily armored targets thats why melee damage is so low. In PvP Warrior’s mobility with Warbringer rune is great tho, we are the only one class with 50% healing reduction which compensates lower dmg than other classes. Current bracket has no real good plate items and only one good weapon is boe drop on Uldaman. The biggest problem in pvp is low survivability because Warrior has no true defenses like he had in future expansions. I think that MoP version of Second Wind added as a Rune could fix most of its problems. The Enraged Regeneration rune is unfunny joke tbh (how much it heals right now… 600 over 10 seconds? How much it will heal on lvl 60? 1200?. I think on lvl 60 with better weapons Warrior will be pretty good, but dying too easy.
Never! Warriors are fine, get gear, git gud :^)
Yea, but sadly mortalstrike isnt rly needed because due to the burst from almost every single class, healers die anyway even without mortalstrike. This is what the average “buff warrior dmg” guys dont get, your class isnt doing well because of the current oneshot meta. There is no way SoD PvP balance will ever be atleast SOMEWHAT decent without a fixed amount of dmg reduction in bgs / open pvp events like strangle.
If people dont die instantly, warriors have one of the very few healingreduction spells, making them much more valuable.
Cringe af.
I want what some players here are having to come up with such statements as “warriors are top 1 to 3 with gear” 
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zone/statistics/2008#dataset=90&boss=2940 (you know, the logs site)
Warriors are bottom 3 DPS between all specs
(90+ parses only - Mekgineer - the only hard boss that cant be cleared naked
-only highly geared/buffed/consumed up players with good raid comps
-including pvp memespecs
-while being the worst to level solo class
-while being the worst to grind solo class
-while being the only class punished twice vs high armor enemies
-while being the only class without creative or useful runes or dual wield runes that dont require you to stack rage to 80 - which you lose entirely on swapping stances to taunt the boss as an offtank - JK you cant even build rage becasue the boss has 4300+ armor, more armor than RAGNAROS, a LEVEL 60 RAID BOSS.
-while hunters are doing 50% more damage than you, have a pet, dont have glancing blows when farming high lvl mobs with autoshot, have a pet for near infinite grinding, get invited to every group, etc
Why make up lies on the internet?
bottom4:
Frost Mage < MM hunter < Fury Warrior < Ret Pala
top4:
Melee Hunter > Spriest > Warlock > Fire Mage
people got post trauma syndrome so high after being in green clothes and getting killed by r14 warrior backed by 3 healers, they dont care about balance, they just want warriors to suffer
Heres the thing, when you have a boss where if you dont have people walking backwards and forwards at all times if you bring more then 4 melee the extra are just afk, when you have a boss that requires 4 things to die at the same time and you cant get close to one of them and another shreds the health of anyone near it every so often and 2 of your 6 ranged from the previous boss are healers then you have an even damage split on the 4 things you need to kill… on the last boss where you need to kill bombs basically none stop and close the hatch’s you need the ranged dps to do that and be able to hit the boss in their down time.
Basically what I’m saying is the raid is designed to have an even split of melee and ranged.
Another major issue is look at LFG. Everyone wants to play dps meanwhile there are 100 groups looking for healers. the issue isn’t no-one wants your class, the issue is there are thousands of people playing your class. So what do you bring to the table that the other 50 warriors who reply to the lfgs dont?
If you’re telling me I need to deep dive into the 200 people that respond to LF DPS to figure out which of which class is the better then why would I even bring your class when there are better classes full stop? According to warriors on this forum you all hit like a wet noodle in pvp and in pve so why do I want to bring someone who self reports being useless?
All i can say is: skill issue
They dramatically reduced the amount of healing you recieve from spells. Lol. It now like heals you for 10% of the dmg done.
This game has way bigger problems than ur pve parses. Who really cares about pve parses in such easy pve content? PvP is awful right now and unplayable it’s just a 1 shot fest with no room to counterplay. STV event was fun the first few days now its getting boring as hell. I already quit SOD in p2 hoping it will be better next phase but if not there are other games out there.
Warriors on any relevant percentile are at worst mid, at best third place, and that’s including all bosses. However if you were to look at the bosses individually you’ll see that warriors are in first place on two of the bosses and fifth or better on three of them. Now this isn’t by any standard bad, that’s quite good if anything. But then there’s the final boss where warriors indeed perform quite poorly, to such an extent it has a significant impact on their overall performance.
So is it really fair to say that warrior is a bottom DPS class when in fact it performs very well on all but one of the bosses? I would think not. It is easy to take statistics and twist them in whatever way supports your argument. But it is important to put things into perspective.
While it could be argued that warriors suffer far more from the high armor values than any other class, should they be altered just so warriors can be #1 on all fights? If you want to play a version of the game where warriors are always the best there’s era. I personally think it’s a very good thing that different classes get a moment in the spotlight in SoD.
Imagine thinking that a game with 1 raid to do 2 times a week for 4h max a week is why people are upset with their warriors in sod.
I play a warlock and warriors are a full on joke to me, they are supposed to have berzerker rage and tools to make it tough but i think i could have 2 geared warriors on me and quite easily survive.
I don’t find that fun or challenging. You sound like a scrub in these posts btw.
Pretty much left my main warrior bcuz of that. No much joy to play with
Yes obviously if one boss fight is massively longer than the others, is the only ‘hard’ fight, and the one fight everyone balances their raid around, then it’s the only one that matters. Do you really need this explained? It lasts as long as the first four bosses combined.
Warriors are just broken in SoD, they have nothing. Devs are acting punatively towards them because some people on reddit are in perpetual meltdown that warriors were actually good in one part of one iteration of classic.
Same, I was so hyped for p2 and after 2 weeks I already turned off the sub lmao. In p1 atleast the warrior were enjoyable in pve but now its really bad in both so its simply unplayable.
Right now you are joining a Bg for other’s enjoyment because you clearly have nothing in getting oneshotted while dealing 200s white hits with your strongest ability, and in pve you are not joining the raid because you are a melee and not needed.
There is 2 option for warrior and basically any melee player either reroll to a ranged class or quit.
Yes, same here, I also cancel my sub. I really don’t care if I’m 3rd or 4th or last in wow raid logs, But you can’t even tank anymore because there are simply already better tanks than warrior and people in the raid prefer them to tank, I won’t even comment on the PVP because it’s clear as day. Today I was trying to find a good party for the STV event, so I could collect the coins for my weapon, but of course the Layer system had a different opinion and I ended up in another Layer alone, so as a Warrior I have no chance… Why pay for an unfinished game, totally unbalanced…pointless.
To be fair, the warrior could have played a lot better in that clip, and was a bit unlucky that their first 3 hits missed and parried, and that the hunters RSes all critted.
charge → defensive stance → blood rage → disarm
Such an weird Comparison Meele hunter is broken dmg wise, and getting nerfed, everyone knows that.
yeah this game is fully balanced around 1v1 it was also fully balanced around 1v1 in orginal classic wow
are warriors bad currently? ofc, will they be the same at 60? who knows, but i dont think it will be the case.
too many buttons for old dad forum gamers, there should be only 1 button to smash, and this is mortal strike, and thats it.
Eh, no. They just announced a 30% damage modifer nerf to RS. Anyone with a brain could see it was massivley over powered.
As if i care what you think this game looks like in the last few months of its cycle
Hows it a weird comparison, the guy said he could beat melee hunters 1v1 and i show a dual of how 99% of 1v1’s vs them goes.
Please dont ever talk to me again, i really have a distaste for people who over quote others posts on this forum, especially when they are clueless.