Well, that’s somerhing Devs can’t change
Btw, I also works 8h a day, so I know your point. That’s why I don’t usually do raids. M+ is about 40 min, raids are not.
Again, I’m living proof Sub can be invited in PUG M+ above +10 as for now. Yesterday I joined and get full group almost immedietly in +11 Sanguine Depths (with the Bolstering and Tyrannical week! Yes!), with 217 and 219 ilvl dps and 226 ilvl tank. No one was rage quiting, everyone knowed what their doing (me the less xD but I managed not to die more than the rest eventually). I was third in dps, and everyone were ok with that and with me beeing Sub.
I use RaiderIo (from like 207ilvl). I have 715 score, maybe the fact everyone with the addon sees it, get me faster to the PUG group. If so, I recommend you to use it as well and show others your experience.
I usually write “i will only play sub” in the comment section of LFG. Usually have no issues getting into weekly keys (15+). And you can actually do really well as sub in keys, i’ve been hitting 7k dps overall recently and way ahead of the other dps. Granted that might be because i’m 229 ilvl, but still.
You can definitely play sub in all but the absolute top keys, i would say the key level ceiling for sub is around 22-23 atm.
For me, Sub Rogue is the most fun of the Rogue’s 3 specs.
Unfortunately it has some basic flaws, some even notable as the rework that took place during the beta phase of SL was half done.
The main problem in my opinion comes from the really bad talent tree, one of the worst in the game, practically one way.
Legendary not up to par, this also because of the GIGA-NERF that took place shortly before the launch of the expansion.
Also the great strength of the sub, that is the funneling-single target, no longer as strong as it was some expansion ago (hello Shuriken combo).
Currently the outlaw has better funneling ST than the sub and in pure ST it’s not that far away (which it shouldn’t be). In pure ST and in cleave 2/3 targets SIN is currently the strongest spec of the rogue.
Furthermore, the SUB on 2/3 targets is practically null as it does not have cleave damage (Rupture cannot be considered cleave as the contribution even if spread on 2/3 targets is not so impactful)
So speaking purely of numbers, the SUB compared to the other 2 specs is the weakest or at least the least versatile.
Then I easily make the key 14/15 and in HC it is easily viable.
I got 917 RIO and I know whats my role in M+ and raids, I use macro, keybinds, addons. I play this game since 2008 and I embarked on blizzard servers in 2019 and since then I use this bloody RIO. But I appreciate your friendly attitude, not many players in-game are so in such days, especially in bg’s
I dont find sub rogue to be that bad really. We lack cleave and thats about it, our singletarget dps is on par or better than most but since the current pve “meta” is downright broken aoe or gtfo we kind of falls behind a lot.
But for the most part, we arnt that bad and the changes to make our filler abilities in 9.1 a lot stronger and up our energy and combo generation is going to bring up up a bit but basically still only excel at single target.
