Such an unpleasant community that is a small portion of M+ - for you know who in the thread

How exactly do you want me to show you? Did it already.
https://imgur.com/1pzCLcC
On ilvl 685. Don’t need a single heal doing regular routes. Most tanks are very easy to play and don’t need a single heal. I stand by it. Get on a healer or get a healer friend and watch it on Discord. I will tank you any +10 and won’t need a single heal.

Edit: Here is a run from just now: https://imgur.com/UqFRtN7
I am not 685 anymore, obviously, but the healer is not focusing heals on me at all. I am just getting some aoe heals.

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I wonder how the game would be like, if enough people had the policy of treating others as well as if they were sharing the same table at the time

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It would be a lot more pleasant as people would actually be social again.
But I don’t see that happening with the mentality people have these days.

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That doesn’t really show that you don’t need heals though.

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It shows a healer who barely can hit the buttons and suggests the most that I simply don’t need any healing. It’s hard to showacase this with pugs. That’s why I offered him he can heal my run himself or ask a healer friend to do so. This way we can make sure that he is not using a single heal on me.

You mean like it didn’t change anything in China?
Through different mentalities, it would have different outcome for us but not the one you wish. The people who think this a good idea would usually be the ones suffering the most from it.

instl obs - make video show us how you do it in random pug :slight_smile: dont carry about you being carried

go go :slight_smile:

People learn, it just takes time. Culture grows but it takes time.
I thought that the internet culture would grow into becoming friendlier as people realised that there are very good reasons for polite society.
But now I think that polite society came to be because we just couldn’t get away from each other, and then it’s either murder or nod and smile, eventually.

On the internet we can get away and as time goes we learn that there’s no good thing that can come from lingering. There’s nothing to say. It takes effort to be friendly and express yourself and it is also a risk, every message is a risk to the one who’s making it. Risk of ridicule or getting an enemy for later. And it’s not just about the social risk, which is greatly elevated on social media, but the risk of getting hacked after having been noticed.

But mostly, I suppose, it’s just futile. We’re not friends and we will never be that. None of us want it as there’s no reason for it. I much rather be alone. Only on occasion I will crawl out from under my rock to greet the world. It’s better to stay silent.

Notice that every negative event is registered as five times as important as a positive. Which makes sense because otherwise we’d die off pretty fast.
There’s a lot of negatives and people keep chanting they’re nothing. But they are, the truth is that they are and that they’re weighing us down.

Meeting anyone, ever, in any setting, is taxing. It’s full of projections from both sides. Various considerations on the intent of those you meet and mostly it is true that there’s only just that self-interest. What people forget is that there are big gains to a positive interaction, makes you feel good about things and there aren’t many ways to get that feeling. People don’t really know that.

Try and smile it off with some stranger sometimes. Sometimes it works.
Honestly though, usually it doesn’t.
If you are very lucky you have a friend. Take care of them, it’s doubtful you’ll get another.

If that’s your experience, then I feel sorry for you…

I have made so many friends through online gaming. People I still visit IRL on a regular basis, people I talk with on a regular basis, people that actually reach out to hang out when passing/visiting their country.

I have made friends that speficially invited me over to celebrate their birthday. Guild/clan meetups, tourney meetups.

I even met my wife through online gaming.
You can make friends online, and have pleasant experiences, but you have to want it

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no, hmm… for me it’s only ash.
you’re a lucky person, friendly and gentle. brings about many blessings.

I just literally showed you data that proves that shaman barely heals anything.
I can’t control a pug putting literally zero heal on me but the data should actually explain everything.
If you give me a healer who is willing to not heal me at all, I will record a video and upload it. Bring me the heal.

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It doesn’t show anything at all. A ton of your healing is going to come from mastery which are actually his heals getting stronger on you and not actually your own healing.

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Wdym? First one clearly shows that the shaman is barely healing.
Second one shows that I just got random cleave healing like other dps.
If you play healer, let’s play a 10 and you don’t drop a single heal on me. This will prove it undeniably.

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No, it doesn’t.

A ton of your healing is going to come from mastery which are actually his heals getting stronger on you and not actually your own healing.

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Wrong, most of it is my own healing and around 70% of it is overheal.

Link the log then.

Sure can do. Will you also come and heal me in 10 so we have undeniable video evidence? I will record the entire run and link here.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dba9NjWkZKw3rtzy?fight=1&type=healing
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dba9NjWkZKw3rtzy?fight=5&type=healing

One run it’s 64,98% overheal another run 71,79%
Both runs I didn’t use barkskin or wall once.

I invite any healer who is able to keep the group alive to join any +10 and I will not require a single heal. I stand by my statement and I am able to back it up in-game.

It would be nearly empty, because the majority of players do not want to treat others as humans, but only as tools / servants. They play the game because it allows them to treat the rest like that.

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The overhealing is irrelevant.

Your top healing is by your mastery. I said it’s doing a ton of healing. This log just proves it. A lot of that healing is from the shaman.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dba9NjWkZKw3rtzy?fight=1&type=healing&source=7&target=1

This shows just how much he healed you, then your mastery triggers more healing from this. You did not have enough self-healing to live without his heals.

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Did you read the logs? It’s literally all cleaved healing. He casted one single healing surge on me in the entire dungeon…
The log proves, I don’t need a healer to heal me. The data is right there.
I don’t even understand why we argue common knowledge.

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