Survivor bias in M+ r.io

I have never seen such a thing in my whole WoW experience, please say you got screenshots. Cause that is just funny - what did you do - how many grey keys? Do you have timed runs in your key bracket?

Like something got to be super scuffed if multiple people take the time of day to whisper you! :dracthyr_uwahh_animated: I want to know!

I am so curious. I mean no ill intent, it is just funny to see this being a thing :dracthyr_heart:

One word people are big worry warts its better to not care and move on.

You may, but the bulk of the player base does not.

I certainly wouldn’t care to see if someone had depleted a +2. That would mean I was doing a low key and I care nothing for the make up of that team or their scores. Like for the weekly quest I blasted through four +2s. I didn’t look at a single score in any of those groups.

About the only time I look is if they claim to have a main with x score but the addon isn’t showing it.

Neither would I, but I can’t remember the last time I did a +2 (probably not since the start of s1). I get the weekly on any character I play just by running my normal keys.

The extreme ends of this is insane. You got the +2 players, and the +28 players, arguing each from their 0.1% camps.

You would not care if someone had some grey keys, but if they are littered with them - you would. Also, you can easily get an overview of if they got timed versions of that keystone (or only greys) ingame, using the raider .io addon.

That is what I use, just look and see if they got some relevant XP of the dungeon and then then base my decision on that.

So a middle ground, I don’t ignore the data, I don’t go deep into the data. Yet, I use a surface level skim of the data.

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I wanted it before I opened my vault hence the +2 blast, was actually hilariously good fun esp if the tank was geared too, cos they just pull EVERYTHING and you blast.

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Fair enough. I have done Ruby Life Pools M0 x 4 with friends before just to get their weeklies done, so I know the ‘pull everything to boss, repeat until end’ strategy. It’s definitely fun.

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A friend does that. I just cant stand doing one place four times but that is probably more efficient.

If the world were fair there would be a feat of strength for this.

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bruh, literally to get into pugs on fresh rio char I just wrote in a note my last season rio (early weeks) or my main rio and it works like half the time if I have gear - the assumpiton it’s a boost is a dumb one. Especially when I was the only healer in the run - have u seen boosts done with a “boosted” person being the only healer? get out lol

dude, I’m not wasting time in 15s on every fairly geared alt when anything above 18s is comfortably doable in mid gear with “good enough players” (or a hell to finish with pepegas). Either way - why would I ever do 15s for champion gear? Plus - if I done one 18-20 - you can figure I could make my own group in subsequent weeks. Your big brain thinking is a joke.

As for your “depleted 15s” argument on my main - it was week 1 of farming 2k rio for tier. with pugs - go figure.

PS: If you really did any higher IQ “Analysis” you would also notice most of my pala runs had people with gear score lower than mine. Surely a boost :'D
Since my rio char is connected to my mage and evoker - people who want will see my main rio so it’s not much of an issue to get into runs. It’s a no brainer but you act like you “discovered” something - probably just trying to smear crap on me for no reason

PS2: It’s easier to get into pugs on low rio chars when you queue to pugs at demonic hours like 3-4 AM - low number of applicants etc. Work smart, not hard :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

PS3: I checked your rio and boy… starting season with sub10 keys? come on :v Do you not value your time or what :'D

Just in case noone have said it, though I expect they have.

Wouldn’t all your ‘issues’ be solved by doing your own key?

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half the time now, I do this - but I’m not interested in re-doing same keys if it rolls something I’ve done on a given character :wink:

@dejarous - I often whisper ppl if I get declined - half the time they answer something - usually tho it’s something neutral like “we need melee” or “we already have mage” or “we need cr” or stuff like that - on other occasions it’s about rio, keys level etc. Just because YOU don’t whisper people, doesn’t mean I don’t… and trust me - people do answer a lot ;p

Aight. As long you know you are complaining to complain

:dracthyr_heart:

(edit: dont whisper me in-game, I dont want that)

ignore me preemptively then lmao

Can’t risk it, what if you are a healer. Healers are always needed. Not worth the risk
:dracthyr_nod:

I’m not only a healer - I’m also a tank sometimes!

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I would probably reply if someone whispered me and asked why I declined them.

Although I don’t usually decline. I just accept people from the list and just relist the key if the list gets too long and I’m not finding what I’m looking for. The time I might decline is if I’ve filled a particular role and then I’ll decline everyone else who has signed up for that role, or if I’ve specified something like BL in the title and someone signs up who can’t provide that.

That said, don’t assume the reason they give you is the real reason. When I was a teenager, I sent a novel I’d written to a publisher and they rejected it with a nice note saying it ‘didn’t fit their list’. With hindsight, I realised the real reason they rejected it was because it was so awful. Some people might give you a nice reason because they want to be nice and others might give you a nasty reason because they want to be nasty, but there’s nothing to say it’s the truth.

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See, I mean if I see the group leader has lower rio and I have done the key on that level or so and my gear is fine then I feel like I kinda want to know why he declined me :stuck_out_tongue: But that’s just me lol

True and real. Real and True.

Stress that this is real true.

60% of the time, there were better options. 10% is gut instinct. 20% is someone else had a better name. 10% is that he didn’t even see you, he just cleared the list.