Swifty NPC

Right… You do you then :grimacing:

I judge people on experts deciding if they have done something aka the courts and police, not a Twitter post. That includes demanding they lose sponsors and anything else that keeps them paying their bills. If he’s found guilty in a court of law then hurt him financially, Fair enough. It’s his job to be an internet figure. Removing stuff from him hurts him that way. How would you like to lose your job and money because someone wrote something about you on Twitter and you wheren’t found guilty yet? How do any of us know he’s guilty or not?

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Yes, and unlike you I can distinguish between social sanctioning and lawful punishment, apparently you cannot. What happened to those individuals is not pleasant, but that doesn’t magically make it legal punishment. What do you want, a law in place saying it’s unlawful to distance from people if you suspect them of something? How many liberties would you have to cut through in order to preserve one partial violation of liberty?

i am entitled to socially sanction you for any reason I like, it has nothing to do with the law, therefore nothing to do with guilt. You can throw out your “oh comes on” and Johnny Depp, but that doesn’t magically make it guilt being legally assumed. Guilt is a legal term with legal implications and you can’t swap between meaning the purely legal term and the social term when it suits.

It’s simply about risk. Let’s say your car is making noises. It doesn’t sound very good at all.
Under your philosophy, until a mechanic has looked at it and confirmed the issue, it would be “jumping the gun” for the person’s friends to be hesitant to ride in the car with them in case it explodes or breaks down. You’re trying to make out that such behaviour is tantamount to the extreme of say- demanding a scrapping the car once it begins to make noises. The two are not the same whatsoever.
This principle doesn’t change because the risk is a human being. The object is suspected of risk, those associated with it will distance from it until it is confirmed. You cannot force people to accept risk and the more high profile someone is, the more associations they have, ergo the social sanctioning applied to them will appear to be (and will be) greater, but this has no bearing on the legal process (assuming the law isn’t being applied in a crooked fashion).

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Are you? Don’t play so naive.

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Blizzard is not the law. They have no grounds to do any form of lawful punishment.

Do not try and act all high and mighty and above me when you’re coming from your safe secure little life to judge the punishments a potentially innocent man should receive.
Come down off your high horse and lets have a normal discussion.

Stop talking about the law, this has absolutely nothing to do with the law.
It should have been but those individuals did not go through the law, they went through social means (twitter) to attack their character and get their own form of justice.

In Swifty’s case, it has worked perfectly for the person accusing him.

Are you absolutely oblivious as to how important an online personas reputation is?

The facts are simple.

Swifty was accused on an action.
Blizzard punished Swifty in the only way they really could. To remove his character from their game because they do not want to be associated with him.

Give one good reason why Swifty didn’t deserve to defend himself before his character was dehumanized and his reputation taken away?

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I’m the one being naive because I think someone deserves a chance to defend themselves before they are punished?

Anyway I don’t care for your opinion, i’ve already seen enough of your dumb posts.

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Yes, even your loaded question is playing naive. No one said anyone hasn’t the right to defend themselves.

It even seems that Method lied to Blizzard. No idea about the details. But they let go of him. So for Blizzard this is not even close to any debate at this time.

Edit: Oh no my dumb posts about customization, run away. Snowflake white knight.

I am sorry but what does Method have to do with Swifty?

Lol.
I was actually expecting you to question me on what dumb posts. Not to agree that you make dumb posts.

Common man. You know this. Don’t play stupid.

No, I do not know.
What does Method have to do with Swifty?
Explain.

Notice to myself: Galedron is a troll.
Swifty was part of Method. Even a devloper from Blizzard had to say Method lied to them about Swifty.

You don’t even know what you’re talking about.
Swifty’s allegations are completely separate to the Method allegations.

He isn’t involved in those allegations at all.

I don’t even think Swifty is part of Method…? Or was.

Source on the developer thing?

Face palm Have a nice evening troll. You know nothing.

LOL.
Ok, well you can think what you want, but you’re so out of the loop it’s hilarious.

Feel free to look it up yourself. The Method thing is completely separate.

And you call me the naive one… shesh

To be fair you brought Method into the thread.

Uh.
That’s why I said I’ll keep repeating it.

What is your point here?

This is my point. If it’s completely separate, why did you bring it up in the first place?

We live in a cancel culture where ACCUSATIONS get people fired and their lives ruined.

Not that they’ve been found GUILTY of a crime but that they’ve been ACCUSED of wrongdoing and that alone is enough that they will be fired and attacked and hated by mobs going on word of mouth over proof.

If he went to court and was found guilty of a crime and was THEN removed from the game etc it would be a VERY different story.

What happens now, if someone accused Blizzs ceo of harassment will they fire him without proof or a court appointment to discover the truth? What about bobby kottick? Or are they TOO BIG and can simple ignore the ludicrous behaviour?

Again I will reiterate, this is very much not a good thing. I would recommend everyone to lawyer up in preparation of being accused.

Clown world bois, I hope you’re ready, because it doesn’t get better

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It’s completely separate to Swifty’s allegations, not that it’s competently separate in the way that Blizzard handled it.

The guy was implying Method dropped Swifty and Method covered it up to Blizz.
That was about Method Josh, not Swifty.

Look at the statement from Blizzard.