I also don’t understand why a sexual assault victim runs to Twitter to announce things to the world and doesn’t sort it out with the police, If they want justice and their attacker to pay for what they did, announcing your story to random people doesn’t help you when in court. I would understand if you went to the police and got ignored and the frustration of it made you speak out on social media. If you really are a victim and the people are guilty I feel bad for them and want the attackers punished fully. I think we need to steer real victims away from sprouting stuff off on social media. It can go against them if they do get to fight it. It also stops the fake stories making real abuse victims have issues.
First thought is that she seeks attention, I’ve read her story and it just seems like she’s trying to jump on the whole latest bandwagon of sexual assaults and she’s trying to get some popularity or just to destroy the guy’s reputation because she doesn’t like him.
You’re my baby
Innocent until proven guilty. But businesses value face more, so they always pull off stuff like this.
This just creates a backlash against actual reporting of crimes and accusations of creepy/bad behaviour (that may not be a crime, but still effected that person, and they feel needs to be called out), because now it feeds into the whole argument of “Ow, they’re just doing it to ruin their career” or “Ow they just had a falling out, so now they’re getting back at them” or much worse “Ow they just had an awkward experience and regret it, it wasn’t actual sexual assault or it wasn’t as bad/malicious as they make it out to be” etc.
Which may end up silencing people who want to come out, and make those who have feel like they’re at fault and make them feel guilty etc. Which never helps.
Businesses need to learn to not respond to the outrage culture (witch hunting); this feeds it and makes it worse. Besides all the above.
Businesses are told to take things like this seriously, but they need to learn to act seriously, professionally and fairly (and give reasons for their actions). Instead of acting like the outraging arm chair judges shouting for beheadings left right and centre.
Same goes for people. Stop witch hunting ffs. Outrage culture results in businesses acting like this. Act calmly, professionally and fairly. Innocent until proven guilty.
Regardless of what the guy did or didn’t do, which is down to law and courts to decide, what we know he -did- do was purposefully disrupt an MMORPG, So yeah, Get rid of any record of him in game, He’s streamer trash, and feeds off causing dissent, or in that particular case, anti semitism, racism and sexism. So Yeah, utterly get rid of. Putting in NPC’s is a pathetic move anyway, -unless- they are posthumous ones like Ahab Wheathoof and Crusader Bridenbrad. Putting them in for ‘Who can be more annoying and manic on Youtube Whooo!’ is frankly just devaluing the process and cheapening what is otherwise quite a touching momento. So no. No Streamers referenced in Wow, they are after all, only a harmful influence.
Ah, I thought that name sounded familiar. While I cannot confirm or deny he is guilty of accusations like these, which I pray to heaven he is not guilty, we must also acknowledge that people who appear good on the camera are not always good when away from it. There is always the possibility that this could be the case, even if I pray it is not.
Pro Jared, for example. For those that do not know, he is a YouTube video game reviewer and game player. For a long time he seemed like the most honest, buddiest guy you’d ever meet. Then it was exposed he’d been cheating on his girlfriend/wife with another lady and it tanked from there. Just because someone acts nice doesn’t mean they actually are. It is called wearing a mask.
Isnt this to do with #BLM Korean Bots - they already said on twitter they were going to break twitch & go for every streamer on Wednesday … I dont keep up with the Bots on twitter except report them …
What age was he then?
What did he smoke?
Did they drop him on the head a lot when he was small?
Looking for some plausible answers here!
Ouf… Right in the feels…
I’d forgotten those sad stories.
Just not a turboboomer you neek.
Man you have serious case of ligma
Oh the good old days… time flies.
Innocent until proven guilty. The court of public opinion should be irrelevant. To remove his NPC is pure cowardice on Blizzards’ part.
Is not cowardice, you simply want to take distances from someone that might have committed those actions.
Especially in this age where you get crucified for every single thing, they don’t wanna risk it.
Btw this explosion of “me too” experiences and how people are treated as guilty the second someone write something just teach people that Ninja was right all along.
Making a step without proof is a jump back… Welcome medieval methods!!! burn the witch!!!
I am glad that women feel confident in coming forward with their experiences if they have been abused. Abuse is obviously extremely bad and should be taken very seriously.
Now, I don’t know if Swifty has done anything wrong, so I’m not going to take a side in this. But if he has, I think punishment and taking distance from him is appropriate.
However, I will say this in general. For all of it, for all the stories.
just like last time the me-too movement blossomed, it appears that legitimate stories are often joined by stories with no evidence whatsoever, and are being taken as fact before the other side even gets to respond.
There’s a reason why there’s memes around how confusing signals from women can be. There’s a huge land between straight yes and straight no where you legitimately, honestly think it’s yes, and she even says it’s yes out loud, but it’s actually no, or she regrets afterwards and its retroactively no but she says nothing so you don’t apologise. It can be very, very hard to read some women and very easy to read others.
And some people just lie. Let’s be honest, it happens. There’s a reason why the accused gets to defend him-/herself in a court of law.
I think the best thing to do is sit back for a few seconds and actually ask: Is it true? Do we have any proof at all? Does the story make sense? Could she have been sending confusing signals? Let’s hear the accused out as well before we lynch someone at least?
I worry A LOT about stuff like this, because if we don’t speak up about the fact that there are misunderstandings or even liars and just assume all men are bad at any accusation, then we very quickly end up in the territory of extremely effective slander and libel, and that’s also very traumatising and can ruin a life.
And furthermore, once we get to the forefront that people are lying and we lynched someone prematurely, people are going to be too averse to listen to such stories in the future. Making a public accusation is a big deal, and we shouldn’t make it harder than it needs to be by going “THAT’S NOT TRUE” immediately - but I don’t think we should do the other, either. The first response shouldn’t be “Omg that’s so brave, he’s a monster” - it should be “@accused, what do you have to say for yourself?!”
So let’s listen to her and let’s listen to him. Then make a decision. Also, I would honestly prefer if this stuff took place within law enforcement if it can before we destroy someone’s image. Sounds to me like this was already happening with Josh and that he was already likely to go to prison for it. Fallout would’ve happened then, and that’s fine.
Isnt what the “me too” movement does?
Like with Johnny Depp?
Well, yes and no. It can be a vehicle for legitimate stories where a snowball effect lowers the amount of bravery needed to come forward, thus getting a lot of problems exposed. That’s good.
But it also acts as a vehicle for liars, and that’s bad.
And people make almost 0 effort to tell the two apart. That’s VERY bad.
No the problem with such movements is that they go all in when they call out bad things that happened. ( and this is good)
But they don’t give a flying duck about helping the person that got accused once that is proven they are innocent.
And this is infuriating