The 400 ilvl piece of gear ruined Warmod even more that it was

Oh you poor poor blue thing, you needed a 30% buff and a 400ilvl piece of gear to fight while you had the manpower to fight back…

Oops ?

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For stating the facts that warfront at the time had 1 good item.
This buff right now for alliance is 1good item this week and another on wedensday?
When warfronts came out alliance in the same week as horde had a guaranteed item a chance to get an item of the same item level.
Horde does not even have the chance to get it.
Nevermind that the item is on top of a 30% bonus.

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See last post.

Like Alliance and the 10% buff from warmode for 4 months?

Oh, NOW you bring it up?

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Does not count, you guys could activate it, create your own raid and get this buff.

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Does count, because when we did, the raid got reset. :wink:

What do you mean got reset ?

The facts Warfront Horde had it so yes horde could get that 370item.
Alliance in the SAME week as horde could get that 370item could do a World boss that had a chance to get 370 item.

The 10% buff both sides could get but yes horde used it more than alliance even that i think is to much as i have stated BEFORE it even was in the game.

The 400item level item that alliance can get now there is nothing nada 0 that horde can do to have a chance to get an item with the same base item level outside of raid.

Chance =/= Guaranteed. And decking your character in 340’s straight off the bat, without any restrictions apart from rings…

Because the Horde did, and still do, grossly outnumber the Alliance.

You mean other than wait for the 400 ilvl item they’ll get from DS (also first again) when it swings back around?

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340 At the Time is the same as getting 355-360now it was easy to do.
on your “Chance =/= Guaranteed” do you really not get that horde does not have ANYTHING in the game that can be 400 base item level right now?
you are claiming that alliance getting 400 now is the same as horde getting 370 at the time but you ignore the fact that many alliance players DID get a 370 at the time as base level, horde right now this week HAS 0 chance to get a 400 base ILVL at all.

Not true if look up the numbers horde does have a bit more at max but it is not as large as you are trying to make it out to be.

Again you are not understanding sure horde will get that but horde has Nothing right now that has a chance ANY chance any % drop rate not even 0.000000000000001% chance to drop base item level 400 loot.
Alliance at the time of the warfront you use as a comparison had a chance for gear from the world boss
Oh and alliance had the DS warfront first with the free guaranteed 385 loot but i do not think it matters as it is not right when a raid came out.

You are ignoring facts to fit your narrative.
You ignore that alliance could get an equivalent item level loot the same week as horde had one, because it does not fit what you are saying.

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Well I am not a PVPer, never even set foot in a battlefield, I did my first bit of World PVP yesterday during an incursion, I was solo, found the main quest where horde/alliance share the area and there were about equal numbers of alliance and horde in the area and I can honestly say killing the Horde was quicker and easier than killing off the quest mobs, I think only once did the Horde in the area think of getting together and fighting back, the rest of the time they were just bouncing around like targets to be picked off.

If I go into a zone with warmode on I accept I am a target and that if I see a Horde target I will either attack or avoid. If you don`t want to be a target turn off warmode.

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Like I said, mental gymnastics. So, whatever. :slight_smile:

You forget a big fact >>
We are at the second tier and this gear doesn’t count at all…
Right now i am at 393 ilvl…
And i don’t need even doing darkshore for the 385 ilvl…
Back then 1st week and second week i was at 352 ilvl ~ My friend Darkos /Dk horde was at 365 ilvl with some 360 tf aswell having easier time to do mythic + because of the + of the ilvl…

There is a huge different when you compare a starting race from zero with a difference starting race because of gear up in those 5+ months …

Most of my alt’s are at 380 ilvl …??? do i need to do any warfront for gear dropping 355 ilvl ?? Nope
Put that at the start when most of my alt’s was at 320 ilvl an in need for warfront’s ??? Let’s wait 3+ weeks to gear up them ???

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Limit is an excellent example of game prostitution.

They transfered to Alliance not because they like races, plot and features of Alliance. They did it only because of the damn braindead quest for killing 25 Horde players and get an easy 400 HC loot.

Disrespect for Limit.

It would be laughable to see them back in Horde when Zandalari are released. Judas

Seriously do you really think that most of the players at that level care about race, faction, or class. They would play characters that looked like and were supposed to be role-played as toilet seats if it gave them an edge.

Actually… only the first day. This evening I did my assault in VolDun with horde, plus Vol’Dun emissary, plus honourbound emissary and crickets were chirping around. I haven’t seen a single alliance around.
With Alliance same, not many around nor this morning, nor this evening.
Most of the people don’t care about that 400 idk :neutral_face: I keep my new shiny cloak thank you very much… I outgear our main tanks in my guild but still they want me to crap DPS the raid :laughing: which it’s a bit of easy fresh air for once.
To me it looks that even the free loot doesn’t appeal Alliance.

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I say give the quest to hordes too so we can have fun on both factions.

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‘I’ is not a great demographic to gauge the percentages with. You need a good sample size to judge, and ‘just me’ won’t cut it.

There’s also alts to take into account. Depending on how many 120s you had, you could gear any amount of them to 340ilvl with absolutely no restrictions barring time.

All of my guild all of my second guild on another server would work for you?
Second i was responding TO A PERSON USING his friend as an demographic to gauge the percentages with.

No, it wouldn’t. And I was replying to you, not that person.

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Exactly.
Everyone should be equally angry and bitter. In i400 gear.

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