The boosting problem

Blizzard is suspending accounts now, for a long time. No more silences. The problem will be solved.

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That’s up to them. You can have your opinion about it, but doesn’t mean they’re not having fun.

The way I see your posts is *old man yelling at cloud* right now, for not enjoying the game the same way as you are.

Again, that’s your opinion. If you pay for a boost, you also use the same currency owned by Blizzard. Unless you bought a token, you’ve literally lost nothing but time. If people want to collect virtual stuff and enjoy doing so, regardless of whether they pay with in-game currency for it, who are you to decide they are wrong for having fun?

Oh and with that logic buying transmogs from the AH instead of farming or crafting them also counts as boosting? Because you’re paying something to get something else for it without putting effort into it.

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Quite the dilemma indeed, i just stopped after doing +15’s to get what i wanted and was enough for me.

I don’t want to put in the additional time or effort to go higher, but i don’t mind the people that do because it was set up to be challenging in that way respectively.

But paying to complete a challenge is not doing the challenge in a meaningful way i’d say, it becomes something more akin to what we experience in the normal world.

Yes ofcourse, you can call it anything you like and try to make it sound like it’s an old man angry problem, but anyone with a decent mindset knows better.

Depends if you’re just buying tokens with real money to get gold or buying it from some shady source to get what you want or just put in the time in this game and do it the way it was intended?

The first is just lazy wanna wanna wanna and the second is playing the game like it was intended to be played and put in effort to get what you want.

There’s very little left to be said to you in the end i guess, because to you it probably all sounds like old (wo)man angry or at least that is what you keep telling yourself?

A friend does boosting and they had an RPer buy a boost for some dungeons, he was ā€˜in character’ and RPed as if he’d hired a band of mercenaries/sellswords to get him through some dangerous territory. My friend said it was one of the funniest boosts he’d ever taken part in. The buyer was having immense fun.

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I have not given in for it yet. The dilemma is bigger, when there is something I like. In bfA it was the All-seer mount and the elemental from Jaina. But my guild decided to do mount runs for the 2nd and for the 1st we salvaged our raid team from scraps and still killed it. In both cases I thought my guild just cannot do it. I was wrong. But also what stopped me was that I asked myself do I really NEED anything in this game ? Nah. I already have a lot of cool things and what i get in future is nice bonus, not necessity. So I did not buy any boosts, but i did do background search and toyed with an idea. Because imagine you do 200 wipes on a boss and it feels as if your raid team will disband on next raid…

Also have had temptation to buy PvP boosts for transmogs, but … eventually changed my mind, when my common sense has visited me.

On M15s I had it easy. My guild had enough m+ teams and interested people to get guild groups running. Also we are social guild so even social members get to do M10-15 without need to go to PUG if they prefer not.

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This is what i am talking about, why do people think they actually need something from a virtual world?

Most of us been there i think, my partner and me were playing alliance on Silvermoon and the guild we were in was already struggeling with Uldir.

But when Battle of Dazar’alor was about to hit the guild tank felt the need to declare that the guild wouldn’t be able to handle heroic because some players kept needlessly standing in everything and the guildmaster / raidleader refused to replace these players.

That’s when we decided to move away from Silvermoon and go to Draenor back to horde side because the overal mentality here was much better than on Silvermoon.

People exchange gold for goods AND services, boosting is a service. The are no legitimate arguments in favour of preventing players from doing this.

What should not be allowed is real money trading and spamming the group finder with ads.

except before mythic plus boosters did not spam as disgustingly as they do now. Its the chinese gold seller bots all over again. plenty of spam leading to sites that ask for real money payment as well

Never thought somebody even requested these kind of boosts haha.

ā€œRP member for hire!ā€*

*+50% to the price if Goldshire is involved

The buyer was the RPer. He just considered the boost group as sellswords/mercenaries for hire.

Most of the boost group didn’t interact with him but he talked through out the entire dungeon and my friend (the booster) just kind of joined in a bit for the laughs.

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I bought several boosts for some of my alts (a few HC raid clears and mainly weekly +15) just because the price isn’t much to me and because these alts were too undergeared to do it the ā€œnormal wayā€ and when I say alt, I mean 10th or 15th characters after I done everything ā€œnormallyā€ again and agaiiinnnn.

My guild just - ever since its birth ā€œdecadesā€ /feels like it :P/ ago sometimes goes to hibernate. It has ā€˜hall of fame’ capability and it may sometimes not raid and hibernate. So it is in a sense a unique among raiding guilds as this is also a community guild. So breaks do not mean end of the guild itself, but may mean loss of some players or simply that you will not get fancy raid rewards.

In BfA we were hit by not-very liked expansion, essence system got some quits, corruptions made some go to Classic full time and all sorts of oddities. And BfA for us had a pattern - go to 2nd last boss, quit for tier. Go to 2nd last boss, quit the tier. And on carapace our 1st pull was similar - one tank quit, other on verge on quit, some members cannot attend, pandemics, things blah blah blah. yay… go us !

It did not help it that most of bfa we didn’t even have a raid leader (no really, we did mythic raids with 20 people and no leader… and sometimes with 18-19 people)

And then in Nyalotha one guy steps up. Starts again social raids, and leads the mythic raids. We go back to get Jaina mounts and do very swift kill on carapace. That point people in guild got 2nd wind, and our nzoth progression was a bit … breaking all advice guides or experienced people did tell. Each progression day we had to swap people and 2-4 different people each raid, and then you had people get tired on the nature of learning curve particular to nzoth (two teams needed separately to learn and couldn’t do it in same time)

It looked hopeless.

I hope this also explains the background on why some people may want to buy boosts even when they do content they might buy boosts from. My guildies did in Legion buy mounts because of that ā€˜last boss’ curse we have.

Nzoth did break the curse and returned us the sanity. odd as it is from RP point of view and him meaning to steal all of it.

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I buy my transmogs (and other stuff) from the AH with gold that I’ve farmed. I could also buy the N’Zoth mount that way or get my alt some 120 gear boosted. So far I’ve never bought a boost service and I most likely never will. I personally don’t enjoy it, but I think I’d enjoy boosting for gold though.

I’m terrible at making money and all I’ve farmed so far is from in-game sources. If someone is willing to pay me to get some gear or rio, I’m willing to take that. In real life I would also write code for money so that someone else wouldn’t have to, so why not digitally?

The only thing you can tell me is that you don’t understand why people enjoy being boosted, and that’s fine. You don’t have to understand nor agree. Telling others what they should, do, shouldn’t or don’t enjoy is where I draw the line.

The difference here is that it“s from Bliz and not a third party.

which is why addons are not allowed to ask for money cause it“s not by blizzard.

Did i tell you people what they could or could not do?
Even if i did it’s not like people are magically going to listen because i forbid?
If anything covid has shown us what people do when you tell them to not do something right?

You shouldn’t draw a line for something i didn’t say, i merely said what i thought of it and just like there are people that think it’s ok there’s also people that think badly of these kind of developments.

Don’t put words in my mouth.

And you’d probably be allowed to ask money for addons if Blizz were to erect a site where you could download ā€œBlizzard approvedā€ addons, as long as they could take a (big) chunk out of that nice and tasty revenue.

If bliz are able to have the shares, yes. But it won“t come to that, will it?

So logically speaking, as long as there is no third party involved and it’s all ingame for ingame gold, get boosted to your hearts content.

I“m too poor for a boost.

Boosting is fine.
You want to waste and throw away your money
go ahead.
i dont care.

Its the spam.
Advertisement is fine.
Spamming is not.

Spamming LFG Tool is even worse.
Fix the spam and let them boost all they want

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in LFG lists you can just report advertise band they will be removed from the lists.

Ive done that.Sometimes 10 or 20 on any given time of day

you log a new char 15 min later and they are still there
2 days later they are still there

they are not being removed.

HELL on the same character they are there if you refresh the LFG tool
blizzard does NOTHING

The boosting has made players lazy and boosters greedy.

This is why skill level is dropping for average player when they can just buy a boost and get carried.

I noticed a lot of advertisers had the ā€œmurlocā€ icon, which makes legitimate new players blend in with them and makes you wonder ā€œis this person an actual noob or just another throw-away-boosting-advertiser?ā€.

Its very slowly killing the social aspect to help new players and in general to make groups to aim for hard challenges.

Ach… I need a pint for this.

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