For what it’s worth, there’s a script out there you can put into UBlock Origin that filters out all sites known for commonly hosting AI. It has all but eliminated it from the few searches I do.
Of course it doesn’t help the core issue, nor does it eliminate the SLOP that has infested Pinterest and similar sites, but we gotta take what we can get with these measures.
Me: Yea, it’s pretty bad. I hate going onto google and finding AI art. FFS.
I open Bluesky, search for “Team Rocket” in curiosity.
AH YES. LOTS OF SUGGESTIVE AI IMAGES.
ffs again
Art is the expression of the human condition.
AI cant make Art, AI can only mix things up as its been trained with.
AI should stay out of the creative things and rather be relegated to where its actually useful and beneficial, specifically scientific research and medicine. Thats where AI could truly unlock its beneficial potential as a tool.
Not to say that I dislike people using that tech for “art”, I might cringe at them for using it but I can also understand why they use it. Same as I cringe at everyone who bought blizzards greedy cashgrab that was the 80€ bronto while also understanding why they bought it.
As with art prices and the necessity of artwork of your characters: many opinions have been given, mine doesnt make any difference or give significant insight or different perspective. But generally I think the sentiment of “You dont need artwork of your characters and anyone who believes otherwise can go sungazing” is appropiate to have.
Is a community where you are required to buy yourself in with artwork, which may or may not be a significant financial investment depending on your circumstance, really worth it?
I will admit I’m quite hostile now to AI users and supporters but I frankly feel as if they only have themselves to blame.
They know it’s controversial, they know that it’s disliked for a multitude of factors (all listed above, mostly in Acrona’s post), they know that it isn’t very well liked within creative spaces (ie a roleplaying server where literally everything is a collaborative creativity), but then have the nerve to get upset when people like myself draw a line and say that we don’t want anything to do with them.
With me you have a choice - your crappy, regurgitating plagiarism machine - or me. If you choose the former, it’s your loss - not mine.
Whaaaat?! No, clearly the random noise variable is entirely the same as the process of human interpretation!!!
Considering the last person I saw speak in favor of AI immediately called you “delusional” and jumped on with personal attacks because you simply didn’t share their viewpoint, I do not blame you.
It is also something I have seen and experienced myself plenty of time with AI supporters. They tend to be hostile from the get-go.
I do wonder how the pro-AI-art crowd would feel if I just spun up a few multiboxes loaded with LLMs to generate every response in RP.
To me, that would cheapen every interaction and quickly make me duck and dodge any character engaging in such. But if AI generated art is just as creative as human art, then AI generated text must be as creative as human storytelling.
There’s been people already doing that. Not to the same extent, but using ChatGPT to generate RP responses.
I am a writer IRL, and what does worry me about AI is the fact that it can generate entire stories that are -sometimes- difficult to distinguish from hand-written/typed novels. There are “authors” around that publish books “written” entirely by AI.
Ew. Gross. Massive yuck.
Amazon self publishing my beloathed
I work as a copywriter (the only one) at quite a large company where I’m encouraged to use AI to streamline my workflow.
It’s obviously nice in that it helps me a lot (I do criticise and change a lot of what it generates), but it’s also painful from an ethical point of view and I have a really hard time seeing why anyone would willfully want to apply it to a hobby that is pretty much all about writing.
I won’t name the people involved because they’ve already been publicly named and shamed elsewhere, but here’s a few of the AI incidents I can recall on Argent Dawn.
First was the “art” commissioner who was actually just somebody using the face generation on ArtBreeder. This was quite a while ago, really one of the first times I’d seen GenAI used to turn a profit and it was pretty terrible to see.
More recently you’ve had someone get themselves in trouble for putting artwork they paid for into an AI image generator, ultimately resulting in arguements and discourse that resulted in said person not only stepping down from running a fairly sizeable community but also getting their profile deleted off the Argent Archives.
Then you’ve got somebody actively offering their "service " as an AI artist where you pay them real money so they can go “okay computer, do what they said so I can get paid.”
There’s almost certainly other incidents - guild advertisements here on the forums written with the likes of chatGPT, people potentiallly generating images with AI, but then tracing them to pass them off as their own, events and written works on the Argent Archives chockfull of artificial intelligence - none of which needed that extra oomph and even if it did, there’s in-game screenshots, or even stock image libraries if you’re that desperate to include some out-of-game imagery… granted said stock libraries are also probably now chockfull of AI slop, but what can you do?
But ultimately the point I’m trying to get at is by doing all of these things - you’re signalling to people that you don’t care about your own creative integrity. You don’t need those silly words, you can just get the computer to excrete a highly-generic soulless imitation of creativity for you. And that’s why I’m not gonna associate.
I would 100% not be surprised if one of the people who’s tried to sell AI images ended up being the same person that used to trace other people’s art and re-sell them a few years ago.
Nothing gets my hatred for AI higher than this.
Reading AI-slop-stories makes me want to burn my eyes off the sockets with hot steelnails
And the day Blizz begins to use AI for their stories (which, by the quality of storytelling and worldbuilding as of late they might do right now) is the day they truly have become the worst gamedev/publisher. Not that there is much left for them to have this title anyway.
It feels like saying “I’m going to become a painter!” and watch a bunch of Bob Ross videos, only to buy a printer and print stock images from Google.
I think the closest I’ve ever gotten to using GenAI for writing has been my Obsidian Vault. If you have the computing power for it, you can run an LLM on notes you write about characters and events, and the AI (supposedly) responds, trained on your writing. I never quite got it to work, but I thought it would be a funny way to get inspiration from the mistakes and oddities the AI would produce.
And one of those people is still around, doing it under a new name on twitter.
People like that deserve nothing but to be shunned and driven away entirely.
The odds of that is very high. I wouldn’t put it pass anyone.
There is nothing ethical about AI generated images to use it just shows a lack of any creativity or so much as an ounce of effort in making something good.
And it’s doubly worse when people SELL their slop at the same prices of actual artists hard work and effort.
I remember seeing stories a couple years ago about this one writers’ platform where people could submit short stories and the ones getting published were decently paid. I think it was Clarkesworld Magazine? A sci-fi & fantasy publication.
They at least temporarily suspended taking submissions altogether because people just started flooding them with AI generated short stories. A good example of people not interested in doing creative work using generative AI to just make a quick buck in creative fields.