The game has become a joke

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Got same situation in +14 ML, got invited to the near full group (without any addvertisment), there were tank and heal nearly 3500, and other two dps like 2700-2800, got asked for 30k tip, after gentle reject got insta kicked. Ofc immediately reported them

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Feels more like a natural furthering of the liberalisation of the service-driven in-game economy.

Blizzard basically says that gold for services is okay. Couple that with the fact that providing services is the predominant way to make gold in the game and you got a playerbase that will only lean more and more into being service providers.

And whilst those organized boosters have a lot of setup that make it difficult to provide a similar service of that kind of quality, everyone can run their own little one-man shop by simply dictating the terms of the group content they organize and run – even something as simple as a Dungeon or Delve or PuG raid.

I don’t see how Blizzard can stop this development. They themselves opened the floodgates by getting in on the gold-selling market with the WoW Token, thereby enabling everything that flows from that – including the service-driven economy that has blossomed in the wake of the WoW Token.

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ive had a bit of a break recently, tried to log in myself today to do some of this new pointless content like dast duos

and i thought to myself… why?

im the same as the OP , its just cash cow for players and blizzard
it really isnt worth its value anymore

  • all these little content pushes like remix, horrific visions, dast duos, overcharged devles are things cooked overnight to keep players playing as they are losing millions of players as the season has dried up

the veil has been lifted.

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what i hate most about society is that we live in one

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It’s inconsistent but sometimes it shows, sometimes it doesn’t in wow.

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You want to hear a joke? Level boost from the shop is more expensive than the monthly fee :rofl:

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So, like I said: Highly destructive to the game and the community. :sweat_smile:

By making it against the ToS and acting against those breaking the rules in a harsh way. That’s how.

It already IS against the rules to advertise services outside of the appropriate channel.
So these people should already be dealt with. And the harsher, the better imo.

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it is already

“This includes any and all references to “tips”, “tipping”, or other synonyms of these words.”

but without proper enforcement all rules are useless

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Agreed. And since Blizzard stands to make money from people buying tokens, they’re not in a hurry to act. Which is a real, rotten shame.

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I used to get informed with a small box thanking me most of the times I reported someone. The “Thank you” note sometimes arrived mere minutes, sometimes a couple of days later. I even received right now during TWW S2 a thank you note, but I haven’t received any for 2 months, maybe more.

Remove the concept of rewards going away at the end of the season, and you’ll see request for boosting services plummet by at least 90%.

But this will also plummet the need for Tokens, so the finance team tells the development team to not even consider it.

If it takes you less than a month to level, then that’s good. It tells you “You can bypass the grind, but it will cost you more than if you simply endured it”.
If it takes you less than a month, then it’s made for you.

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Well, I like humour and a good laugh is what the doctor order so this works for me I guess :dracthyr_a1:

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Yeah, but good for Blizzard’s business.

The game is increasingly dependent on gold – hence this thread by the OP.
And Blizzard are the provider of gold.
It’s like mobile game design at this point. It’s easy to point out how a lot of the design doesn’t make for a good game or good player experience, but when you look at it from a business perspective, then it makes more sense. And Blizzard are a business.

Banning the behavior doesn’t address the reason for it.

Again, Blizzard allows player services for gold. For that reason players will always figure out new ways to provide services for gold (trade advertisement, GDKP, tips, whatever). Blizzard can’t ban their way out of this, because they themselves have created the fertile environment for it – the WoW Token. Players buy the WoW Token and use the gold on player services. And that gold is what other players want their hands on, because it’s the best source of gold income in the game.

Blizzard can’t really fix this, because they themselves benefit from it. It’s what drives the sales of the WoW Token.

Precisely. So they can’t stop it. Or won’t stop it.

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as far as i know .i asked the gm in ticket and they said that they take the reports seriously but i will not receive any notification if action was taken based on my report .that was 2 weeks ago .

this might be a new thing then .because i asked two weeks ago and this is what gm said to me .

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Thanks for sharing the information, even though I have little trust in how seriously they take it

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Someone’s illiterate.

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Yeah, no. That’s still the AH by far, otherwise botting for gold selling wouldn’t still be so crazy lucrative.
Goldsellers provide more gold to WoW than the WoW token. You can be sure of that, because they’re cheaper than the token.

You do know why, though, yes? No? Okay.
Services like those are always “overpriced” so people don’t overuse it.
They just could’ve gone with not providing any sort of premium services like that, but if demand is high enough of course companies grab that cash, but on the same side still try to keep it a bit moderated so it doesn’t get out of hand and destroys the product.

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I didn’t include third-party goldsellers, because they’re against the rules.
If we’re not considering the rules, then I guess installing your own gold-farming bot is the best choice. :+1:

But as it pertains to the design of the game, Blizzard have increasingly shifted the acquisition of gold from playing the game to buying a WoW Token.
And as a consequence of that, there’s a market for trying to acquire the gold that others have just gotten through a WoW Token. That’s where boosters come in and other player services (Goldshire!). And that’s also where Auction House flipping comes in.

I mean, when little Timmy buys a WoW Token and sells it for 300k gold, then smart players in the game try to get those 300k gold he’s carrying around. And smart players have figured out that little Timmy wants boosts and he wants stuff on the Auction House. So smart players have figured out that the easiest way to earn gold in the game is to earn little Timmy’s gold by selling boosts to him and flipping the items on the Auction House that he wants to buy – now for an inflated price.

It’s a predatory player economy and an absolutely degenerate game design.

Little Timmy is going to spend his 300k gold - like an idiot who’s won the lottery - on a couple of boosts and some expensive bling bling on the Auction House, and then be broke again. And then he’ll find himself buying another WoW Token later because he needs more boosts and more stuff from the Auction House. And smart players are there with high prices on boosts and items on the Auction House, because they know little Timmy has 300k gold, so he can easily afford a boost for 100k or 200k even, or flasks for thousands of gold.

It does not bode well for the future. :confused:

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I feel bad for the tim after reading that. Everyone were just atfer his gold. Lucky for me I have maybe 38k gold split across 8 characters, I’m in nobodys crosshairs for my gold.

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Doesn’t change what I said. I just said the AH is still WAY more “top gold generator” compared to those folks grabbing gold for M+ etc.
Even without bots a lot more people make gold with economy gaming the AH than boosters and the like.

That is not the case just since boosters, tips and crap, this predatory player economy has it’s roots back to vanillas AH. Or if you wanna go that far, its been like this since the dawn of MMOs.

The only thing this tipping does is ruin M+ for PuGs.
And Blizzard can never stop it.
It already is bannable and people already get supensions. If too many people get banned they just move to discord an the like. Yes, they will have less people seeing it, but they still keep enough customers to keep going.

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Best I can do is 10 silver and 2 stacks of cloth from a random past expansion.