Maybe only Zandalari for the dinosaurs…the rest should be more or less equivalent to the Alliance ones I think
I like Night Elven cats, and birds more. =)
For bears I think taurens looks better.
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Drust themed ones are… interesting. Could be a bit more death-alike, but they are fine as is.
gl hf
The Sentinel Owl form is sooo cute.
But I really like the classic cat form the most, it was …don’t know really cute somehow.
Technically taurens where the first druids, but Cenarious left them, because no reason.
Then they stopeed to practice it and learned it again from the nightelfs
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Is Xarantaur canon now after all the retcons? Because if he is then he dabs hard on all the other Druids. The guy is far older than Malfurion.
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He was the reason Blizzard had to swoop in to reassure the upset part of the Night Elf fanbase that Malfurion was the defacto first Druid ever.
You know, even though it does clash with the chronicles that stated that Cenarius did teach the Tauren Druidism…but then that was downplayed to only be some minor nature related fluff…makes me wonder why they bothered in the first place 
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Not the true Druid faction until we get Blood Elves druids too… and no, some botanists are not enough…come on Blizzard it’s long overdue…you almost gave any class (especially Druid) to any race anyway 
Every race can be a dk now.
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Malfurion was the first druid. That is canon.
In Warcraft 3 there was no Tauren druids, and no Tauren druids were planned. In Classic Alfa there was no Tauren druids, and then Blizzard had to swoop that Lore and to add Tauren druids just to give this class to the Horde… 
Since classic we had WoW description, where it was stated that Night Elves were first druids until the WOTLK, where Blizzard suddenly decided to add immortal Tauren druid, who told that it was actually taurens that were first druids.
Since then, community were asking Blizzard, who was actually the first druids? Night Elves or Taurens? Which lore is more correct? Info that was written in the WoW first description, or from the words of that tauren?
And to fix a bug regarding that tauren, Blizzard have answered in the interview, that it was actually Malfurion the first druid, and it was written in the very beginning, that Night Elves were first.
So, I don’t know from where did you got those upset Night Elves stuff, but this Xarantaur was a Lore mistake in the very beginning. But anyway you must be happy that Taurents who were not planned to be druids in the beginning at least got that class at all.
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Ooh, not disputing that, I mean, it doesn’t even really matter either, they ‘swooped’ the lore for other stuff aswell - female Night Elven Druids, male Night Elven Priests and Sentinels etc, Alliance warlocks? 
It’s not so much as retconning or bending the lore though, it’s just adding to it- Because how much of the Tauren was actually shown in WC3? Or the Frozen Throne for that matter? Practically nothing, right?
As far as WC3 was concerned Thrall only encountered one chieftain of one tribe, the Bloodhoof tauren. nothing about the others, only in the Frozen Throne did the Spiritwalkers show up? Would you claim that was a retcon for Tauren Shaman? It’s technically the same thing, isn’t it?
And Druidism does fit a spiritual beastial race like the Tauren, or a faction like the Horde that’s more down to earth so to speak(Blood Elf and Forsaken not withstanding) that deals with raw elemental power and ancestral spirits.
Yes, probably because someone at Blizzard then noticed how overshadowed the Tauren were in comparison to the Night Elves and wanted to bring them up more, just a speculation, surely someone at Blizzard then or now noticed how the Tauren are practically relegated as just henchman and secondrate in everything nowadays.
I got this from the later part of this sentence and this ;
That ‘questioning’ of wich lore was correct was…a bit less civil in my memory, so that’s where I got the Upset part from.
Don’t get me wrong though, I don’t particularly care if Malfurion Stormrage was the first Druid. The part that does bother me is that he should be responsible for Tauren Druids, I wish Blizzard had done that differently, that they had developed their own form of Druidism and not be Secondclass Druids to Night Elves.
The Class just fits the Tauren naturally As they, unlike the Night Elves, did not have a past of a vast magical driven empire, with a Highborne caste and an empress that twisted the natural world, just to suit her vanity and pleasure - I mean, just saying…kind of strange how a being called the ‘Forestlord’, a demi god of nature’s world would choose those Night Elves over a race that’smore in tune with nature in it’s core.
Sounds a bit out of place to me, It’s rather simple, if they didn’t have Druids, they didn’t have Druids and I would think little to nothing of it and just play…Sha-( oh wait), because that’d just be how the game was, right?
That said, I am glad the Tauren can be Druids I explained why I think so - My only issue with it is, as I also explained, is that it copies practically all of it from Night Elf lore - Wich is a shame and a waste of potential, in my opinion - For the Tauren, but for the Night Elves too, even if a little less.
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“According to tauren mythology, Cenarius (the patron for all druids) instructed them first in druidism as recounted in their myth Forestlord and the First Druids. As it stands, the night elves claim the first druid was Malfurion Stormrage, an idea challenged by the tauren beliefs. This is clarified in Chronicle. Cenarius did live among yaungol, the ancestors to the tauren, when they settled near the Well of Eternity between the 12,000 and 11,900 BDP, but Malfurion was the first to be trained in the ways of the druid, around year 10,000 BDP.”
From wow gamepedia.
So tauren were the first race to contacted by Cenarius and get teachings about druidism and the Emerald Dream etc…
Somebody being a druid is more like a title, like the “drust druids”.
(Dont even mention Zen’kiki.)
Still hold the point that taurens were the first druids, but they did not got enough knowledge at the time and didnt plan it to use it in combat.
AND Cenarius left them sometime randomly, so they tought they shoud not continue to follow his teachings.
But would like to read a novel about this time.
Like is the teaching on Cenarius the same as the nelfs?
What happened? Because Cenarius left them randomly without any word?
What about the early days of the taurens?
Would read this 10/10.
AND one more thing. Nelfs always want to be the first in everything so they claim a lot of things. They are kinda arrogant.
Or maybe didnt know that taurens were visited by Cenarius and they instantly claimed they were the first ones.
You guys lack critical information.
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Druid is just a label created to tag the generic playable race and one of the overarching themes that accompanies the class.
We have confirmation regarding races that had druidic practices that predate that of Night elves.
Tauren worshipped nature long before Malfurion started training under Cenarius, and troll creeds regarding Loa has been a thing since before the NE race even existed.
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who cares druids are bunch of lazy deadbeats that sleep all the time they all went out for cigarettes when their people needed them
Wrong. There is no information that taurens/yaungol ever were study anything from Cenarius, about nature and the Emerald Dream in Chronicles!!!
Tauren mythology is a 2 loud words. It was not a book, or a novel, or a cut scene, or a cinematic, or an quest chain. No, its just an single old tauren, who sits at camp fire, and tells stories to children. Blizzard have told before, some times NPC point of view in a game can be wrong…
Like those Night Elves npc on Alterac, who have told that Night Elves were created by the Elune.
Wrong, druid is not just a class that uses nature for game mechanic. Druid in the Warcraft lore is about the path of the Life, and their connection with the Nature and Life it self, that leads to the Emerald Dream connection, and ends with connection of Ardenweald.
And Night Elves were the first ones in Azeroth, who gain that connections with the land it self, by studying that knowledge from Cenarius.
Trolls, they are totally different. They were just worshiping LOA, and for that they took just a possibility to transform their bodies into animals. Blizzard did made such LOA magic casters into Druids for mechanic, but Its not even close to the Nature realm. Night Elves started to teach them the ways of nature in Cata, and that is the moment when trolls really became druids.
As for Taurens, there is no information in Chronicles about the time when Taurens started to worshipping the Nature. We know clearly that wild yaungol do not.
Taurens were represented as a wild half animal race that travels across the Azeroth, and not a single word about worshipping the Nature before Classic.
So, we cannot tell, did Taurens started to worship Nature before or after Night Elves, we do not have such information. Heck we don’t even know when yaungol have transformed into Taurens, maybe that have happened even after Night Elves.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Gonk
The patron of most Druidic aspects in troll culture is literally bestowing them with said abilities by drawing on the Emerald Dream.
Darkspear might have come recently, but the latest lore regarding the Zandalari, explicitly describes how their relation with Gonk goes way back to the times when there were still no NE around.
No. Druid in the Warcraft lore expands way beyond that. And once we take into account the definition said class has from every races point of view, NE elves are no longer considered to be the first.
Yaungol and Highmountain have their own Druidic ways, as well as Gilnean and their Harvest witches.
Malfurion was the first of a very particular iteration of said creed. But several other races had already been practicing said nature magic for way longer. And continue to do so in their own way.
Regardless of how much you want to push on this weird flex, the Druid class is no longer restricted to what NE decide it is.
This shows how Tauren and Yaungol started practicing it way before NE:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Forestlord_and_the_first_Druids
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Wrong. According to Blizzard:
https://twitter.com/mickyneilson/status/304347421272596481
-so, regardless of how much you want to push on this weird flex, according to the Blizzard, Malfurion is the first druid.
And I don’t see any reasons to argue with Blizzards clear stance, so I’m off from this discussion.
There is written this:
Canonicity According to Micky Neilson and Blizzard historians, the first druid was, in fact, Malfurion Stormrage, not the tauren.[1] Nethaera at one point pointed out that “like all history, it tends to be from the perspective of the writer”, and that while the tauren believe they were the first druids, the night elves were the first druids.[2] Thus, Forestlord and the first Druids falls into the category of flavor lore.
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And yet we have several other races whose practices predate that of NE, and are also tagged as Druids. Namely, Zandalari, Tauren, and Highmountain.
Or other creeds such as Harvest Witches and Kul Tiran Thornspeakers (that derive from the Drust), whose practices are tagged as “a primitive sort of Druidism” that differs with that of NE.
So yeah, having Malfurion being the first one of a particular iteration of Druidism, doesn’t negate the fact that there are Druidic practices that predate him, while also being turned into proper playable classes.
And in said regard, Tauren and troll are chief examples of it.
Except we know thanks to more updated information, that there were indeed Druidic practices that were an ongoing thing for Tauren before NE started following on Malfurions angle.
Just because they used a cruder sort of Druidism, it doesn’t mean that Tauren or trolls didn’t indeed practice it. Specially when ingame we have a continuation of said practices thanks to the inclusion of Zandalari and Highmountain with their own Druid class.
One that started and evolved without Malfurion/NE influences. And that was an ongoing thing since before the former even started practicing it.
The day Blizzard stops calling HM and Zandalari “Druids”, the claim about Malfurion will indeed be seen as truthful. Until then, and for as long as these two have the same tag as NE, the class they have predates that of NE.
Something tells me that there would rather be yaungol [not tauren] in this case, since they are ancestors of tauren.
I have a hunch that the story will unfold into something about Elune on one hand, and An’she - on the other. Or not - time will tell.
It make sense though. Story-wise. Because after all of that yaungol journey most of ancient knowledge was lost instead of being passed to tauren.
Stories about Goldrinn and drust may add some extra elements to it in the future.
gl hf
I like this showdown between our russian Night Elf and the biased red Troll. I think you guys should make a separate thread and one-up you with quotes and references.
Fact if the matter is, Blizzard once again tried to stroke their Horde hard-on and just threw in some piss-poor excuse for lore into the Horde because… I guess they didn’t already have a bit of everything? It wasn’t enough to be the first psychopathic, homicidal maniacs, and now they need to be the first peace loving hippies, too?
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow some intern comes out and states that the first Paladin was some Vulpera during the first Legion invasion. Wouldn’t that be something?