This is a very recent development though. And not even in Europe is English the most common language. It would make more sense if we spoke Russian or German
Bless be the mixed language lfg.
My mothertongue is FR but I m not a frog, there is cultural shock between my country and Frogsâ country.
With this system I can avoid Froggies and play with nice germans, russians, brits and Co.
I prefer die and be stuck in the maw than playing with Froggies
In fact i think about character transfer for UK server but I dont know which server I need to go.
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People who come to Europe from outside are not likely to know Russian or German; theyâll know English and the language of the country theyâre moving to.
However, this is not an excuse. I know Swedish, Polish, and Russian in addition to English and my mother tongue, Portuguese.
Again, Iâm not better than anyone. If I can do it, others can too.
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Learning english, in 2024, in addition to our mothertongue is a must HAVE.
you can learn it from school basic teaching.
you can learn yourself by watching tvshows / movies in original version (English)
You can use language app teaching on phone.
etc etc
Yes people who has english has mothertongue are lucky and its unfair for others.
Big new : Life is unfair and its happen.
Donât want to have english basics, in 2024, is a big demonstration of laziness
I never been in university or high graduate stuff.
When I was teenager, mmorpg wasnt translate and many solo game was also only in ENGLISH.
WoW, at the beginning wasnt translated so much, many things in english.
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Yes, yes and yes again.
I started learning English because Brazil didnât made anything back in mid/early 90âs.
Everything we got was imported from the US and obviously not translated.
I remember me and the neighborhood kids getting our hands on a D&D book fully in English, none of us knew anything of English, but we damn well got ourselves to work learning it.
That is a myth. They never have that rule in place. The only rule they have was that the language that you received in your in-game assistance by GMs was the language of your realm. Thatâs all. But using other languages was never against the rules. There has been non-English communities on English realms since Vanilla, including languages that today has a realm, but back then they havenât liked Spanish, Russians, Italian or Portuguese. Those languages received their own realms because the population among them in English realms prove being big enough to make it profitable. That could only happen with Blizzard allowing those languages, instead of banning them.
Blizzard would never want the PR nightmare of being call for ban people for using their own languages. What would they do? Loose all the money from European subscriptions from players who donât have their own language realms and donât speak English? That would have stopped Blizzard from growing in those countries in the first place, like the 4 mentioned languages.
I didnât say that. Thatâs very different from my claim!
My claim is you should be able to understand the language of the realm because it may be spoken to you.
My claim is not that you are not allowed to use other languages. I know you are, I do that all the time.
Yeah, your exact words were âThey even had (still have? Unsure) an official game rule that you should be able to understand the language of your realmâ but any rule implies that players should obey the rule and therefore there could be punishing for breaking it.
If a rule is not enforced then the rule donât exists. That is whay I told you that the rule you mention was a myth.
A different thing would be that Blizzard suggested or promoted understanding the language. But that is totally different to having a rule
Which is different from what you said.
Understand the realmâs official language â always speak the realmâs official language.
As for that rule being enforced - well, obviously not since theyâre merging realms of different official languages, though I suspect you could get in trouble if someone tells you to back off and you canât understand them.
It doesnât matter that you didnât say it. I answer you due to the implications of what you say. A rule implies punishments so answered you that those punishments never existed, therefore the rule also never existed.
It is a simple logic deduction, you said A and i said A implies B, so if I tell you that B is false it means that your affirmation A is also false. You donât need to afirm B nor believe in B. Your oppinion about B is irrelevant, but my affirmation of not B proves that your affirmation A is false.
That was the 2nd thing you said. The first thing you said as a response to me was a strawman on my position, so I called it out.
I agree that a rule not enforced isnât worth the paper that itâs written on, but that rule is being enforced in a roundabout way. If you fail to understand the language of other people on your realm you will almost inevitably do something uncalled for and piss people off.
How are you ever do something uncalled for and piss people off in this game? I canât even remember communicating with people in the world who are not with me on voice.
You are lying. The first thing I said was telling you that the rule is a myth. A myth is something that is not real but doesnât stop people for believing into it. Over the years there has been many people who claimed that not using the language for the realm was againts in the rules but that never was true, and that is why it is a myth.
The second thing I did is imply my argument for why the rule never existed, and I said that didnât exists because its existence would require punishment.
So, donât lie about what I said, lier.
Then prove it, give me one simple example of one time that Blizzard has enforced that supposed language rule.
Donât change the topic. We are not arguing if the language rule should exists or not. We are arguing if the rule existed back them in Vanilla or not. That is an objetive matter, it existed or not. If we are arguing if it rained yesterday it is irrelevant any argument about if the reain is good or bad for the environment. If I told you that it didnât rained it doesnât means I am againts rain.
I dislike being accused of lying. A lot. Especially when itâs self-evidently wrong.
Feel free to retract that one at your earliest convenience.
Oh look you did it again! That STILL wasnât what I said. You are talking about a different rule than the one Iâm talking about!
No, weâre not. Youâre strawmanning me, accusing me of lying, and in general being pretty obnoxious.
Knock it off.
There was a time when this game had a living world. D:
But how do you do something what can piss people off? I cant imagine? And that just because you can not communicate too?
I have a problem anyway. There isnât a server with my native language. Probably i am full time pissing people off, without noticing it. People take offense of everything. So doing a WQ is probably offensive now too.
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I refuse. If you insists calling me a strawman I will continue calling you a lier. I donât recognize that calling me a strawman isnât a lie. I refuse to argue with some one who choose to lie about me. If you donât like it you are free to use your rights and report me so a GM can determine if any rule has been broken, but respecfully I believe you are lying about me so I donât want to continue arguing with you. Letâs both part our separated ways and nave a nice day.
I get pretty annoyed when someone cannot be communicated with and theyâre doing something irritating in the game world or a dungeon run or whatever, and no amount of telling them to stop will elicit any response because they canât understand it. They think what theyâre doing is being liked, but in reality itâs being disliked, sometimes strongly.
I am talking about a rule for the former, you are talking about a rule for the latter.
They are not the same. That is the strawman.
I also am not calling you a strawman. I donât even know what that means.
Being called a âlierâ (spelling lessons for you, good lady) for pointing this out is unbelievable.
But what is irritating you? I havenât heared any example yet. I just cant imagine you can annoy people for not speaking the language.
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Iâve tried a few dungeon runs where a player does a bad pull, everybody tells them itâs a bad pull, but they ignore it. Eventually we realize the person doesnât understand English. The priest in the group completely lost it and reported. I didnât, but thereâs an example.
Iâve also tried people repeatedly tagging a mob I need to kill. Ask him, he just says âhiâ, or seems confused. He has no idea that Iâm trying to tell him to stop doing that. I know he wasnât trolling, either. He genuinely thought there was no problem.
Iâve never reported anyone for it (especially in dungeons, as that is not happening on my realm), but some people would for disrupting gameplay.
A dungeon is of course just randomly grouping. And since we are in europe we get tons of different languages. Random group finders are just what it is. I do not think we have any control over that.
Asking someone not tagging a mob is a bit weird, isnât it? You can tag it yourself too. Probably every spec has an instant? 
So i am right. Doing a WQ is pissing people off without knowing 
But fair; you want to communicate with others in the open world. I canât remember it ever happened to me. I also never felt the need to do.