I don’t think your personal gameplay experience is an indicator of anything on a general level. No offense.
No, but the fact that plenty of people miss MoP and dislike BfA does. I’m certainly not alone in this.
How many people have you met who actually praise BfA? I’m genuinely curious. Because the number of people I’ve met that do can be counted on one hand.
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Don’t bother with this person. Whatever you do or say is whooshing over their heads.
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I don’t really have an overview of that. I’m not keeping tabs on millions of players.
But I’m sure there’s an audience for every past expansion for various reasons. WoW Classic has shown that to be the case.
But regardless, MMORPGs – WoW included – are built around grinding. Grinding levels, grinding gear, grinding professions, grinding gold, grinding reputations, and so on. That’s a core-pillar of the genre. If that’s not your cup of tea, it’s a bit strange you ever found your way here in the first place. All other game genres have less grinding than MMORPGs. So if you don’t like grinding, this is truly the worst game genre you could have picked for yourself.
Even WoW’s least grindy expansion or patch is way more grindy than what any other game genre dishes up as far as the gameplay experience is concerned.
I mean, know your genre and what it entails before complaining about it. It’s like the complaint is the equivalent of: “I don’t like this steak, there’s too much meat in it!”
I’m just quoting and responding to your post since no one bothered to respond to you before and you seem desperate for attention. Consider it granted.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. But there are different kinds of grind, and they are differently structured reward-wise. And I’d say that BfA failed in regard that most of the stuff one is grinding just doesn’t feel rewarding. Especially when most of the grind is built on several layers of RNG.
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That was all I did and wanted to do. If you want to make soup on it and extract all sorts of conclusions, go ahead. 
On topic:
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Then do yourself a favour and don’t act like a smartmouth. I’m just as experienced in MMOs as you are, or are my achievement points not enough of an indicator?
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I don’t think I have insinuated anything about you or your experience. I have merely said that I gave an obvious answer to the other guy’s simple question. That you have then desired to draw secondary conclusions from that obvious answer is all on you, I’ve merely responded to it as I saw fit.
I’m not going to reflect on that any further.
Then why have you replied to me instead of him?
I haven’t drawn any secondary conclusions, sorry.
You replied to my post, I responded. That’s what I do; I respond.
Well, I said the following:
You then said this:
I read that as you questioning the validity of what I said, insinuating that there’s another conclusion or answer than the game being grindy by design – that it may be that older expansions did something right that BfA has failed to do. I.e. it’s not the game that’s grindy, it’s BfA that’s bad.
That’s how I’ve read it. If I’ve completely misunderstood what you were trying to say, then mea culpa, but yeah, not going to reflect beyond that.
Yeah, you seem to have misunderstood. Let’s just leave it at that I guess. We are likely never going to agree on this matter anyway.
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Weekly to-do list before I can do what I enjoy:
- x3 assaults
- At least x1 M+15
- Clear out the raid and maybe progress mythic
- Do emissaries
- Do HoA
- Get essences
- Visions for cloak
- Cap out PvP
There is too much to do.
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But most people here agree to him as you should have realized by now.
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Well the Arena forum is basically a nice little symbiosis of like-minded people, so the echo is always loud here and there’s always going to be a high risk of confirmation bias.
So arena player have the same opinion of how arena should be or at least how it shouldnt be. Maybe its time to go back to the designs people want. Its impossible to make everyone happy but to make everyone unhappy is not the way they should follow.
And about grinding, before we only had to grind pvp and never to that extend. You were able to have fun in pvp with just playing 1 hour a day in the past. Thats impossible these days!
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No. What I said was that the vocal people on this forum are like-minded.
Extrapolating that to mean Arena players or players in general, that is confirmation bias and that is my point.
But what’s before? You’ve always had to grind in WoW. The very first time you were presented with competitive PvP in WoW it was a massive grind – ask anyone who plays WoW Classic at the moment.
Sure, there’s a discussion to be had about how much is too much, but that wasn’t really what I was commenting on, so I’m neither agreeing or disagreeing. My point was merely that grinding is part of the WoW package and the presence of it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. It’s kind of the very first thing you’re presented with when you log into the game for the first time – grind levels!
What a Idiot this ion skinnycostas is.
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Dont argue with jito they say
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Argueing with jito is like Talking to a wall dont do it.
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