so basicly make horde into alliance?
nah keep the savage stuff for horde.
the horde leaders sucks goats tho.
Hey i rp and from my point of view weâre all different people
No itâs not even been a month since the last messages were sended. It was only a few days.
You just showed you have no clue about volâjin and that means you have no clue about lore so kretias here is just to ignore.
Learn the definition of âasâ and then we may talk. Volâjin was by far not as important as Varian and way easier to replace. Now shoo mr troll.
Wait there never was any Alliance bias? Never was.
There is alliance bias. Check your privilige
bad trolling 0/10
When did it became a privilege for a faction to be the one who bleeds players to the other faction?
No thereâs no Alliance bias. Youâre just upset that in patch 8.1 that we actually got a fighting chance in horde mode. So why donât you just try to either main Alliance and only play in horde mode or stop being racist?
Scratches head
Not really -racist- though is it? I mean thatâs not what racism meansâŠ
AlthoughâŠ
WellâŠyeahâŠI mean that -is- his thing, I mean he -is- one of the three most powerful Eredar (Fun fact, that -is- the proper name for Draenei) to have existed, and currently -IS- the most powerful to exist. He has 25,000 years behind him, he -should- be absolutely hard as nails!
I Donât think that is exactly how it happened, is it? I meanâŠthe Horde pretty much did burn down her capital city, and if you play the original invasion quests on Alliance, She knows it. She knows sheâs lost. Her last words to the Player character are for them to âGo to Darnassus, prepare the people there to ensure that Sylvanasâ occupation, is as endurable as possibleâ She knew sheâd lost.
-Then- Round Two, except this time with added rage of Elune powers! She doesnât really solo anythingâŠThereâs quite a large Night Elf army there, not just her, and to be fair, she is an Avatar, she is literally imbued with the rage of a GoddessâŠSheâs going to be a bit tasty in a fightâŠ
Malfurion:? Yeah, he is silly, he needs killing. Tyrande is the Avatar of a Goddess, which is fine, for a time Thrall was the Shaman of an entire Planet. Having Tyrandeâs husband be a -Demigod- is a bit stupid. Hardest druid on the planet? Sure. Demigod? no.
Sure, he is powerful, but it wasnât just militia, these were trainee Sentinels. Theyâre like Farstriders are to the Blood Elves, or in our world what the S.A.S are to the British, Sentinels are absolutely the best of the best the Kaldorei military has, and even when not finished training, are still going to be a bit good in a ruck, and they were fighting on home turf, which is generally an advantage. And then lets not forget that massive Wisp Army! Wisps are mean as hell! Sure, they may be the size of a tennis ball, but theyâre the ones who took down Archimonde at Mount Hyjal. Malfurion himself though? Yeah, making him a Demigod was a really dumb move by Blizz, though this may be offset by the fact that he looks like a cross between a tramp, a pigeon, a cat, a bear and a stag. Stupidest looking NPC in gameâŠ
Jaina: Ok, Got nothing. Jaina is a ridiculous overpowered mockery of good character writing. Not because sheâs powerful, powerful is fine. Because she is thrust into the limelight all the time. That scene at the start of BfA when she comes in on that ship I was just like âRight, all credibility is lost, that is one of the stupidest examples of power creep that doesnât actually -work- with WoWâs own cosmology and lore, that this is embarrassingâŠjust embarrassingâ Worst thing is, sheâs not even the most powerful Mage on Azeroth! She is described as âthe most powerful sorceress of her peopleâ So She is the most powerful human mage female in the world. Thatâs fine, however you then have a human mage male who is described as being of equal power, however he actually is a Neutral. (Khadgar) but, to go one further you have a Blood Elven mage male, who is described as equal to both in power, which is Aethas Sunreaver (Yeah, surprised me tooâŠ) so really, Jaina is balanced out by Aethas, with Khadgar in the middleâŠ
However thenâŠoh goshâŠwe have a Mage who must be so powerful they can make Jaina look like an Apprentice, because Grand Magister Rommath looks down on Aethas, for both his age, -and- his Arcane power. He must be an absolute Unit!
Genn. Fought Sylvanas. So what? At the time she was just a Dark Ranger. Iâm basically seeing Powerful Warlord Worgen King fought Powerful Dark Ranger QueenâŠSounds plausible. Also you canât say âHas werewolf power and has all benefits of being a Worgenâ They arenât two separate things! Those are the same thing.
Turalyon and the LFD are a bit silly yes, but they had to manufacture some way of bringing ol âScarfaceâ back into relevance. Thing is, the Immortal thing only really works for him, as heâs human. I mean what difference does it make to a Light Forged Draenei. âAhahah, I am immortal, and can wield the Light like a boss!â
Everyone else just rolls their eyes and goes âSo, Youâre basically like a Draenei Vindicator then?â âItâs different.â âHow?â âIâŠcanâŠpaint my hooves with gold trim?â âSo thatâs your power, you basically learnt how to paint your toenailsâŠamazingâŠâ
So really, the Alliance leaders are either justifiably hard, or arenât -actually- that Hard at allâŠ
So there ainât any bias going onâŠ
The only faction bias out there is the communityâs - one that has been a rolling snowball for the past decade or so.
Both factions are amazing in their own way, and I feel like blizz has done great in keeping them well balanced (which was not the case back in og vanilla, due to cut content).
The real problem is the communityâs bias that âhorde is where you go to play seriouslyâ, so everybody goes horde. Itâs a mirage, but has real consequences.
There is no Alliance biasâŠThe Horde got Vulpera.
If anything, thats proves the fabled Horde bias
Another alliance Fan in disguise. You disgust me.
Fan of alliance or that another alliance? I always mess those two these days
NoâŠ
Arenât we just so lucky!!
Thatâs⊠special.
For once, youâre factually correct. Give yourself a cookie!
Boredom makes people do silly things
They already have an allied race based on Void Elves.
Hmm. Looks at your choice of race.
you need to stop visiting a certain discordâŠ
you forgot to add an âIâ vowel in that last word.
18 days is hardly a âfew daysâ butâŠ
But given that volâjin has appeared sporadically to⊠shall we say⊠less than a rapturous welcome kind of bears him out.
Oh dear god.
Since Erevien said so. now check your privilege! Iâve already checked mine, it said âYouâre just that privilegedâ
Errm⊠Shall we count how many leaders the Alliance has gone through since Vanilla compared to how many leaders the Horde has gone through and still canât settle on one? The plot armour on Alliance characters is so thick it should be used to deflect nuclear attacks.
yes they are but in terms of plot armour and survivability the Alliance is clearly higher in Blizzardâs plans. The only Horde significant character with any long term survivability is probably Sylvans. The rest of the Horde leaders have either been systematically emasculated or just killed off ingloriously to make way for the next suicidal chump.
But we have mechagnomes!
Yeah you win actually.
especially when they pull off a flawless Sagat cosplay.
Iâm sure heâs despondent to know that. But by all means, feel free to refute his points.
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Horde was always bad guys of the game. Donât get me wrong iâm not saying they are evil. They invaded Azeroth , they caused many problems because of their tyrannical leadership ( at this point every xpac they are destroying something) and yes they are savages that warchief system is the proof of that. Ofc they will get shafted at the end of xpac cuz they caused those problems to begin with ( Garrosh , Sylvanas)
Btw the things you said about cities itâs not completely true. Itâs just not your taste. I also donât like them thats why i donât play horde but i know many people who is playing horde just for the ambiance of the cities.
Also , iâm against the idea of killing heroes of ally without a good reason ( not talking about bad writing about a leader goes crazy like Sylvanas i would like them to revert last 2 xpacs tbh) cuz they are og warcraft characters.
However will I live with this knowledge?
He can only see the views of the horde and not with the eyes of both factions.